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Funbox
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April 13th, 2012 at 10:10:34 PM permalink
I only just recently found out that the $2.50 chip that exists in my casino doesn't exist in many casinos nationwide. I understand some casinos who round to the nearest dollar when a pink chip is played ($11 blackjack for $7.50 instead of $11.25), but how does it work in casinos, such as the Aria and Bellagio, who don't have fractional chips of any sort? Do they force bets in certain increments like in baccarat?
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April 14th, 2012 at 1:20:18 AM permalink
They will typically have $1 chips or tokens and 50¢ tokens or coins. Tokens resemble coins but, like chips, are usually only redeemable at the casino that issued them.
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April 14th, 2012 at 3:57:08 AM permalink
In addition to $2.50 chips, as you mentioned, and 50 cent coins/tokens/chips (as JB mentioned), I've seen casinos use quarters.

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April 14th, 2012 at 4:43:11 AM permalink
Quote: Funbox

I only just recently found out that the $2.50 chip that exists in my casino doesn't exist in many casinos nationwide. I understand some casinos who round to the nearest dollar when a pink chip is played ($11 blackjack for $7.50 instead of $11.25), but how does it work in casinos, such as the Aria and Bellagio, who don't have fractional chips of any sort? Do they force bets in certain increments like in baccarat?



Short of forcing all bets to be exactly $2n, they could simply pay 3-to-2 on $2n of a $(2n + 1) bet, and just pay the last $1 even money. At higher bet amounts the $0.50 discrepancy would make less and less difference. And as for 6-to-5 BJ pays on, say, a $22 bet, the $20 part would win $24; the $2 left would win $2.

I've heard of similar compromises at Craps tables, where somebody might take $9 in "true" odds behind his $5 Pass on a 5- or 6-Point and refuse to allow the dealers to "boost" him to an even $10 bet level. They'd pay his Odds $13 or $10, not $14 or $11, thus underpaying him by $0.50 or $0.80.

In all this, they could just round down as a sort of soft penalty against oblique bets which try to circumvent the house edge or trick new dealers into overpaying wins.
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April 14th, 2012 at 5:17:47 AM permalink
In dealer school they described this as "breakage" and told us it depends on the jurisdiction as to how it was handled. The breakage would be rounded down unless the local GCB mandated it be rounded up. At the time PA was not established but they were thinking it would be an "up" state and stressed to make sure free odds were in the right denomination so some jokers wouldn't put a $5 free-odds bet on a point of 9, requiring a payout of $14 instead of the proper $13.50.

I don't remember who they said were the "player breakage" states nor what happened in PA.
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April 14th, 2012 at 7:18:26 AM permalink
I have seen $5 blackjack played without $2.50 chips, $0.50 chips, or any coins on the table. If a $5 bettor gets blackjack, they are paid $5, and a 2nd $5 chip is placed in front of their wager circle. That one is "half yours, half mine." It goes to the dealer or player who wins the next hand. Basically, your bet is increased to $7.50 for one hand. I don't remember how they handle repeat blackjacks with paying out for the split chip wagered.
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April 14th, 2012 at 7:33:06 AM permalink
if the casino is going to pull this kind of nonsense, then just bet $6 a hand if you don't want to go to $10.
they will either wise up and pay correctly or lose out by having to make change all the time.
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April 14th, 2012 at 9:03:27 PM permalink
Tunica Chips are redeemable at any casino. There aint no tellin how many times I have squirelled away greens and blacks and forgot ablout them when I cash out. I just play them at what ever casino I am at.
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April 14th, 2012 at 9:25:21 PM permalink
Quote: i0r0retardod

Tunica Chips are redeemable at any casino. There aint no tellin how many times I have squirelled away greens and blacks and forgot ablout them when I cash out. I just play them at what ever casino I am at.


Foxwoods has signs near each cashier cage saying that it is a violation of federal law to try to cash chips from Casino A at Casino B. But I have heard that Vegas casinos will typically honor chips from other Vegas casinos.
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April 14th, 2012 at 9:33:22 PM permalink
Quote: JB

Foxwoods has signs near each cashier cage saying that it is a violation of federal law to try to cash chips from Casino A at Casino B. But I have heard that Vegas casinos will typically honor chips from other Vegas casinos.



I've tipped cocktail waitresses with chips from other casinos, and none of them said anything.

At the Fremont I saw a women try to place a bet with a chip from the California. Then she realized she had a bunch of red California chips. The dealer said she could exchange them for Fremont chips right at the table. Of course, the two casinos are in the same corporate family.
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April 15th, 2012 at 9:24:24 AM permalink
I was playing Bac at the WildWildWest (it's considered part of Bally's) and when I cashed out, they gave me a Bally's chip. When I went to the cashier, he would not cash the Bally's chip. He told me I had to cash it at Bally's.

I didn't want to walk to Bally's , so I went back to the Bac table and told them they gave me a Bally's chip and I wanted a WWW chip. They also told me to cash it at Bally's. I told them "you cash it at Bally's". I want a WWW chip. They purposely gave me the Bally's chip when I colored up at the Bac table. Did I mention it was an orange chip ($1000). Somehow they had allowed someone to buy-in at the WWW Bac table with the Bally's chip and now they wanted me to cash it in.

I prevailed and they gave me an orange WWW chip.

I'm sure whoever made that buy in mistake was talked to and told what a problem they caused.
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April 15th, 2012 at 1:12:29 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

I was playing Bac at the WildWildWest (it's considered part of Bally's) and when I cashed out, they gave me a Bally's chip. When I went to the cashier, he would not cash the Bally's chip. He told me I had to cash it at Bally's.

I didn't want to walk to Bally's , so I went back to the Bac table and told them they gave me a Bally's chip and I wanted a WWW chip. They also told me to cash it at Bally's. I told them "you cash it at Bally's". I want a WWW chip. They purposely gave me the Bally's chip when I colored up at the Bac table. Did I mention it was an orange chip ($1000). Somehow they had allowed someone to buy-in at the WWW Bac table with the Bally's chip and now they wanted me to cash it in.

I prevailed and they gave me an orange WWW chip.

I'm sure whoever made that buy in mistake was talked to and told what a problem they caused.




Bally's AC has been my home casino for the past two years (until an incident happened this weekend that has made me permanently decline to allow them access to my gaming dollars) - but, WildWildWest and Bally's AC use the exact same chips - there are no differences in chips (and, as of about 2 months ago, there are no more table games in the WildWildWest)

Are you sure about your story as BAC and WWW are the same exact casino using the same exact chips (well, that is, until two months ago).
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April 15th, 2012 at 7:25:08 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Bally's AC has been my home casino for the past two years (until an incident happened this weekend that has made me permanently decline to allow them access to my gaming dollars)



DETAILS PLEASE!
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April 15th, 2012 at 7:47:35 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

DETAILS PLEASE!





So as not to hijack this thread, I will start a new one and put a link herein.
Here it is Blackjack tournament fiasco
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April 15th, 2012 at 8:07:09 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Bally's AC has been my home casino for the past two years (until an incident happened this weekend that has made me permanently decline to allow them access to my gaming dollars) - but, WildWildWest and Bally's AC use the exact same chips - there are no differences in chips (and, as of about 2 months ago, there are no more table games in the WildWildWest)

Are you sure about your story as BAC and WWW are the same exact casino using the same exact chips (well, that is, until two months ago).



This happened about two or three years ago when Bally's took over the Claridge. I was playing in the Claridge section before they closed most of it and renamed it the 'Ridge'.

Now that I think about it, I may have reversed the casinos. It could have been that they gave me a WWW chip and the cashier at the old Claridge wouldn't accept it.

The Claridge and WWW were considered to be under the Ballys umbrella but they wouldn't cash the chip.
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April 15th, 2012 at 8:11:50 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

This happened about two or three years ago when Bally's took over the Claridge. I was playing in the Claridge section before they closed most of it and renamed it the 'Ridge'.

Now that I think about it, I may have reversed the casinos. It could have been that they gave me a WWW chip and the cashier at the old Claridge wouldn't accept it.

The Claridge and WWW were considered to be under the Ballys umbrella but they wouldn't cash the chip.



The Ridge is now closed as well (except for the BJ tourney alluded to in my new thread) - small world!
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