buzzpaff
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:39:34 PM permalink
" you have a players club card and are betting $20(then i pay the ANTE)." How about you split the ante . pay25 cents to the house,
pay me $25. Seems fair to me. LOL
buzzpaff
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:41:14 PM permalink
Please take into consideration that almost all the member who post here regularly have only played 6/5 Bj by mistake, while drunk, or to sit next to a hot babe !
winmonkeyspit3
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:42:31 PM permalink
I would never play a blackjack game that required an ante, and you are eliminating a lot of potential players by charging the ante to everyone betting less than $20. The way a see it a large percentage of players come to a local casino armed with a couple hundred bucks and looking for a good gamble and a good time. Maybe they play some video poker, maybe even some penny slots, but then they will come to the blackjack table. If a guy comes with say 200 bucks you are going to bust then in a few hours if they are paying that ante every time. If someone wants to play $15 I would assume if they have any brains they will go up to 20 or not play at all. If they are a $5 player and they are paying 50 cents a hand to play that's almost as bad as the thugs in Detroit and Chicago charging .25 to bet $1. At some point you have to realize that while you are getting the suckers and "sucking" all of their money away, you are losing out on a ton of gamblers who would be more loyal to your joint. If I came with 100 or 200 every weekend and lost it every time over my few hours of play I would stop playing pretty quick, so unless you have a huge population of young drunks or just uneducated people frequenting your casino (which may be the case), I would really suggest pushing harder for a rule change. After hearing about the ante when I heard that you H17 I just laughed a little bit, do you really need to add even more house edge on top of the ante?

I guess for high limit players these rules wouldn't be too bad, but for your average joe this is atrocious to say the least. I'd rather play keno.
ShiftyRicky
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:42:48 PM permalink
That is only on the DD game. The 8D game is DA2.

I have been thinking of going to DA2 on DD, we would be the first and only in the area.
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buzzpaff
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:44:33 PM permalink
Why not? Sure seems a cheap enough incentive to attract action .
ShiftyRicky
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:47:47 PM permalink
I guess no one has ever brought it up. Before Downstream opened (which is a big fancy new casino, closer to the MO border) we were the premier joint.

I will pitch that at my next meeting. Thank you buzz!!!
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ShiftyRicky
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:49:59 PM permalink
winmonkey- we are always full of young drunks, we are the biggest bar in the area and have concerts and nightclub every FRI. I 100% agree with your "sucking" the average joe out of playing.
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ShiftyRicky
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April 2nd, 2012 at 9:56:51 PM permalink
The way the Big casino up the stream gets away with NO ANTE is, they take it off your players comp points. This makes it really hard to move up in card status or get comps for that matter.

We charge ANTE, but are very generous with our comps, and it is fairly easy to move up in our system (prestige members never pay ANTE). I have tried pitching that we do the same as the boys up the stream, uppers are scared of it for some reason. If I still had the volme of players as they did when they were THE JOINT, it would not be an issue, but do to the fact that the BIG one is closer to MO, they get alot of the traffic now.
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WongBo
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April 2nd, 2012 at 10:21:19 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

" D8-11 " Really No doubling on 7 or less ? REALLY? How much do you think this increases the HE. My guess is 00.0001%


what this mean is no doubling on soft totals
A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7...
or can we count A7 as 8?

if i were the proprietor of a game with these rules, i sure would not post about it on the internet...
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
PopCan
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April 2nd, 2012 at 10:41:18 PM permalink
Quote: ShiftyRicky

8D( 2 games are machine shuffeled and the rest are hand shuffleled, not counting my High Stakes room)
ES, H17, RSA, DAS

Does "ES" here mean early surrender? If so, a $20 bet allows you to play with those rules and no ante?

Quote: ShiftyRicky

2D( 1 game is machine shuffeled and the other 2 are not)
S, H17, D8-11, RAS, DAS

Does the "S" mean Late Surrender? Does D8-11 mean no soft doubling? Should RAS be RSA?

Quote: ShiftyRicky

and here is my major downside...we have an ANTE (i know i know, please keep reading) it is $.50/hand unless you have a players club card and are betting $20(then i pay the ANTE).


Since you didn't mention it specifically I had to look up the fact that the Oklahoma compacts require player banked games. Unlike most I've seen, you are allowed to keep 10% of the net win. Also, nice phrasing, "then I pay the ANTE". By that you mean no ante is charged.

I feel for you that you have to charge an ante each round. That sucks. You're not going to be able to get rid of that until the law changes. Do all the casinos in your area follow similar rules in that a $20+ bet with a card doesn't require an ante?

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