bobbarker14
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March 19th, 2012 at 1:18:04 PM permalink
Does anybody know if there are any early surrender tables on the strip or are all of em late surrender?
DanMahowny
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March 19th, 2012 at 1:32:00 PM permalink
I have not seen early surrender anywhere. Been to Vegas plenty last two years. Seems like late surrender is available most everywhere.
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March 27th, 2012 at 4:46:48 AM permalink
Late surrender seems to be available for 6D and 8D games but during my visits over the years, I have not seen any early surrender options. Check out the WIZARD'S Guide for Vegas BJ.
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March 27th, 2012 at 7:55:31 AM permalink
Have you ever seen early surrender actually in play? I've been to 500 casinos and counting, and I've never seen it anywhere...
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March 27th, 2012 at 8:06:21 AM permalink
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March 27th, 2012 at 8:22:02 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Have you ever seen early surrender actually in play? I've been to 500 casinos and counting, and I've never seen it anywhere...



I regularly played early surrender games in Atlantic City at Resorts International as it was then called. Unfortunately, it didn't last. The casino claimed that even unskilled players could beat the game.
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March 27th, 2012 at 8:33:59 AM permalink
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March 27th, 2012 at 8:51:30 AM permalink
Some overseas places have had it. If pros get wind of it they fly out there and hit them hard.
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March 27th, 2012 at 10:31:28 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Have you ever seen early surrender actually in play? I've been to 500 casinos and counting, and I've never seen it anywhere...



I've never seen it INTENTIONALLY used as a rule. However, I had a dealer on a Spanish 21 table offer surrender before checking for an Ace. She also allowed extremely late surrender, as in if I got to a total I didn't like after hitting I could surrender then. I explained that wasn't right, and she told me that I was not right... I'm not going to argue if the dealer is giving me a rule in my favor!
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admirepr
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March 30th, 2012 at 9:20:39 AM permalink
I know of one place in Puerto Rico that allows early surrender. It's the Holiday Inn and Tropical Casino at Mayaguez.
Rules:
1. 6 decks, uses 4.5
2. 4 resplits
3. Stands on all 17's
4. Early surrender except on A up card
5. Dealer does not have a hole card
6. Lose only original bet on dealer BJ
7. BJ pays 3/2

Table limits vary from 3/100 to 25/500. Have fun!
DJTeddyBear
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March 30th, 2012 at 9:59:53 AM permalink
Quote: admirepr

4. Early surrender except on A up card

You mean you CAN surrender if the dealer has a 10 showing, BEFORE he checks his hole card, but not if he has an ace showing?
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March 30th, 2012 at 11:53:35 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

You mean you CAN surrender if the dealer has a 10 showing, BEFORE he checks his hole card, but not if he has an ace showing?


There's no hole card in this game (ENHC). But I'm pretty sure he is saying that when the dealer has a 10 up, you can surrender before they take their second card. This is way less valuable than early surrender against an ace, obviously.
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March 30th, 2012 at 1:32:40 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

This is way less valuable than early surrender against an ace, obviously.


I think (not sure though, did not do any math, just a gut feeling), this is even less valuable than late surrender against an ace ...
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March 30th, 2012 at 6:30:03 PM permalink
Value of early surrender
(eight deck, any double, double after split, split to four)

against ACE .39%
against TEN .24%
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