What is house edge at this game? Player edge?
I have three questions:
1. What is house edge on bets of $25? Perhaps there is a player advantage?
2. What is house edge on a bet of 50$?
3. What is the house edge for each dollar over $25? (so I can figure out the answer to number 2, above)
The game is as follows:
This is an Indian Casino, but there is no ante.
Six decks, Dealer hits a soft 17, BJ pays 3:2, late surrender, RSA, Double after split allowed, AND from 6AM to 12PM all six card charlies pay 2-1 (regardless of score, but player must not bust).
The six card charlie 2-1 payout only applies to the first $25 bet. For bets over $25, the first 25 pays 2-1 and everything over wins automatically, but pays 1-1. I tried skirting around this rule by playing the maximum number of hands at $25 each, as I guessed that there was a player advantage (but I could be wrong).
Is there a basic strat chart for this game?
They did not advertise this game, rather, I was surprised when on a hand, when the shoe was positive, using a Red seven count, I had an 19, and the dealer had a 20. The dealer paid me $125 on a hundred dollar bet. As an AP player, its my MO to not question the payout, grab the chips, and toss it into my stack. A few hands later, I was betting $5, I had a 19, and dealer pulled a 21, and she paid me $10. At this point, I figured it was a promo of some sort, and since the amount was small, I asked why she paid me. That's when she explained that they run this promo until noon.
Here's a link to the Wizard's BJ Edge Calculator. Enter the rules, and it will provide the edge.
Quote: klimate10I was playing at a casino, and the casino had this 6 hour promotional blackjack game.
I have three questions:
1. What is house edge on bets of $25? Perhaps there is a player advantage?
2. What is house edge on a bet of 50$?
3. What is the house edge for each dollar over $25? (so I can figure out the answer to number 2, above)
The game is as follows:
This is an Indian Casino, but there is no ante.
Six decks, Dealer hits a soft 17, BJ pays 3:2, late surrender, RSA, Double after split allowed, AND from 6AM to 12PM all six card charlies pay 2-1 (regardless of score, but player must not bust).
The six card charlie 2-1 payout only applies to the first $25 bet. For bets over $25, the first 25 pays 2-1 and everything over wins automatically, but pays 1-1. I tried skirting around this rule by playing the maximum number of hands at $25 each, as I guessed that there was a player advantage (but I could be wrong).
Is there a basic strat chart for this game?
They did not advertise this game, rather, I was surprised when on a hand, when the shoe was positive, using a Red seven count, I had an 19, and the dealer had a 20. The dealer paid me $125 on a hundred dollar bet. As an AP player, its my MO to not question the payout, grab the chips, and toss it into my stack. A few hands later, I was betting $5, I had a 19, and dealer pulled a 21, and she paid me $10. At this point, I figured it was a promo of some sort, and since the amount was small, I asked why she paid me. That's when she explained that they run this promo until noon.
Your base rules have a house edge of 0.46% (not bad for an indian casino!). 6 card charlies paying 1:1 are worth .16% to the player (source). I can't think of a reason why 6 card charlies paying 2:1 would be worth something other than 0.32%, unless the strategy decisions on soft hands were changed.
So, there's about a 0.1% house edge on the first $25 bet, and about a 0.3% house edge on each additional dollar wagered. To find the total house edge for a bet >$25, just take the weighted average.
Quote: DJTeddyBearThe house edge is a simple percentage of the amount bet. Changing the amount bet does not change that percentage.
Here's a link to the Wizard's BJ Edge Calculator. Enter the rules, and it will provide the edge.
In this case, it does change, because the 2 to 1 is only on the first $25 bet.
Quote: rdw4potusI can't think of a reason why 6 card charlies paying 2:1 would be worth something other than 0.32%, unless the strategy decisions on soft hands were changed.
I think it might, much like Pontoon. If you've pulled 5 cards and are at 13 or 14 or maybe even 15 on a dealer bust card, you are probably still hitting, since the 2 to 1 sure thing is worth the risk where the 1:1 might not be.
For a $25 bet, which would pay 2:1 for a 6-card Charlie, here is a partial strategy derived from an infinite-deck analysis:
3 cards: hard standing totals--no change from regular bj, soft standing totals--18 vs 3-7, 19 vs 2 and 8-A
4 cards: hard standing totals--17 vs 7-A, 15 vs 2, 14 vs 3-5, 13 vs 6; soft standing totals--20 vs all
5 cards: hard standing totals--18 vs 2-4 and 7-A, 17 vs 5-6
Quote: klimate10I was playing at a casino, and the casino had this 6 hour promotional blackjack game.
I have three questions:
1. What is house edge on bets of $25? Perhaps there is a player advantage?
2. What is house edge on a bet of 50$?
3. What is the house edge for each dollar over $25? (so I can figure out the answer to number 2, above)
The game is as follows:
This is an Indian Casino, but there is no ante.
Six decks, Dealer hits a soft 17, BJ pays 3:2, late surrender, RSA, Double after split allowed, AND from 6AM to 12PM all six card charlies pay 2-1 (regardless of score, but player must not bust).
The six card charlie 2-1 payout only applies to the first $25 bet. For bets over $25, the first 25 pays 2-1 and everything over wins automatically, but pays 1-1. I tried skirting around this rule by playing the maximum number of hands at $25 each, as I guessed that there was a player advantage (but I could be wrong).
Is there a basic strat chart for this game?
They did not advertise this game, rather, I was surprised when on a hand, when the shoe was positive, using a Red seven count, I had an 19, and the dealer had a 20. The dealer paid me $125 on a hundred dollar bet. As an AP player, its my MO to not question the payout, grab the chips, and toss it into my stack. A few hands later, I was betting $5, I had a 19, and dealer pulled a 21, and she paid me $10. At this point, I figured it was a promo of some sort, and since the amount was small, I asked why she paid me. That's when she explained that they run this promo until noon.
A six card charlie is so rare that even getting an automatic 2-1 payout would do very little to lower the house edge of .75% we are talking like a 100,000 to 1 to hit a 6 card charlie. However if the dealer pays you when they should take your money that is a really plus ev game. If the deck was positive why did you decrease your bet?
DJ, the odds do change for different amounts bet because the payoff for the first $25 is different.
When I bet $5, I decreased because the deck was no longer positive.
I have no idea what the odds of a six card charlie, but they can't be 100,000 to one. I got two that morning.
It seems that this isn't that great of a deal.
BTW, has anyone thought of starting a thread with gambling deals? Anyone know if the triple down ($500 max) promo still runs annually?
