My favorite casino game right now is craps, and the only bet that I make is the passline (or don't pass) with full odds, and the come (or don't come) with full odds. I also play baccarat, since it is relaxing and fun. I only like to make bets where the house edge is relatively low, so I can get the most out of my action.
I sometimes play blackjack, as well as other table games, but I treat my play on them as fun outings and don't make a ton of large bets on them. I guess you could consider me to be like one of thousands of gamblers who understand in general how to play blackjack, but I know that the house edge can get rather high without optimal play. I have just never taken the time to master basic strategy and think that maybe I will do so before I go to Las Vegas next.
So I have a couple of questions for the forum:
1. What is the best way to master basic strategy for blackjack? Should I really sit there with a strategy card?
2. I understand that the basics of card counting is that you bet more when you have a good "count" and that you bet less when the count is bad. How much of a spread does it take to reduce the house edge? For example, if my normal bet is $500 and I bet $1,000 when the count is good, does that make a big difference? Or does it take a much large spread? Just curious.
3. What is the average house advantage in blackjack for players who do not play basic strategy? Two percent? Three percent? Higher?
Thanks for the advice and input.
Quote: gambler1. What is the best way to master basic strategy for blackjack? Should I really sit there with a strategy card?
I don't play BJ, so I'm not talking from experience, but common sense suggests you should practice basic strategy with a card and computer program, or online, or with real cards, at home for some time and you'll get used to recognizing the plays to make.
Next comes learning to count.
I do know how to play blackjack relatively well. However, I do not know every single situation when you are supposed to surrender, or double down, or split. I guess you could say that I play blackjack "above average", but I know that every mistake equals a larger house advantage and that I am losing more money then I optimally could lose.
I think it is the fear of making mistakes that makes me not play blackjack.
That's why I like craps so much. I know if I make a passline (or come) bet and put full odds behind it, I am making the best possible bet that I can make for that game. It doesn't matter if I am tired or sleepy, there is nothing I can screw up to change the house advantage (provided I only make those bets and don't throw out a hardway bet cause the stickman told me so).
1a) Flash cards. Write each player hand on the front and the rule on the back. Tedious and boring sometimes, but our whole staff finds this the easiest way to remember. Just remember to shuffle em up, otherwise you don't "learn", you just memorize the order.
1b) Yes. Just make sure you have the card that reflects the rules for the particular game you're playing. I mean....Imagine you're playing a game, any game, and it's at a 1.5-2.0% advantage. If you could place a magic card on the table that instantly made it a 0.5% game, wouldn't you?
2.) Short answer is 1 unit. Any increase in wager will increase your advantage when the cards are good. 1 unit, though, isn't enough to play at an advantage, rather just a lesser disadvantage. I reckon the play to maximize the advantage would be to spread between min and max bets ($5 to $1,000, for example) The catch is that wager fluctuations such as this are the number one sign of possible counting, and it's very, very easy to detect. The worst excuse of protection personnel can tell when a bet goes from $5 to $500. That being said, I guess it's up to you. If you just want to take joy in counting properly and having something to show for it, a $5-$20 spread should suffice. If you planned on actually making a big time play and walking out with full pockets, a 20x spread is probably needed, at minimum.
3.) Depends on the mistake. As other threads have pointed out, standing Player 16 v Dealer 10 is not the correct play, but the damage done is nearly insignificant. Other mistakes carry much more weight, say, hitting Player Ace vs Dealer Six. In order to answer the question, it must be determined what mistakes you are making. In either case, ALL mistakes can be erased with this magic card spoken of earlier. Pretty sure they're only $1 at the gift shop, and that's quite cheap for magic ;)
Start out with ultimate Basic Strategy such as set forth at WOO and Easy.Vegas: the Easy.Vegas three rules that covers 80 percent of hands will be a good start point.
> Should I really sit there with a strategy card?
No. Have it in your head and have practiced at these online drill sites that throw things at you and give you a six second response time.
> How much of a spread does it take to reduce the house edge?
You might recall that the "practice run" by the MIT team resulted in major losses for the card counters. So it seems that having a half of one percent edge over the house still can result in losses.
>What is the average house advantage in blackjack for players who do not play basic strategy?
Well, alcohol plays a role too as does fatigue, etc.
I have memorized all plays except I don't have the splits and softs down well enough. I made a strategy card that only has splits and softs and use that. It helps not to have to look at other decisions, only these once in a while.
Flashcards, helped
Dealt to myself(3-4 hands at a time )
Very easy to learn BS once you group the similar plays,i.e:
2's/3's- split vs 2-7
4's split vs 5/6
6's split vs 2-6
7's split vs 2-7
A's/8's always
5's/10's never
A2/3- double vs 5/6
A4/A5- double vs 4-6
A/6- double vs 3-6
A/7- double vs 3-6 ( stand vs 2,7,8)
A/8- double vs 6
Just take some time playing at home/online and you will have it in no time.
I am somewhat surprised as to how many players have never taken the time to learn BS.
Good Luck !!
Quote: gamblerI have a confession to make: I have not mastered basic strategy in blackjack
My favorite casino game right now is craps, and the only bet that I make is the passline (or don't pass) with full odds, and the come (or don't come) with full odds. I also play baccarat, since it is relaxing and fun. I only like to make bets where the house edge is relatively low, so I can get the most out of my action.
I sometimes play blackjack, as well as other table games, but I treat my play on them as fun outings and don't make a ton of large bets on them. I guess you could consider me to be like one of thousands of gamblers who understand in general how to play blackjack, but I know that the house edge can get rather high without optimal play. I have just never taken the time to master basic strategy and think that maybe I will do so before I go to Las Vegas next.
So I have a couple of questions for the forum:
1. What is the best way to master basic strategy for blackjack? Should I really sit there with a strategy card?
2. I understand that the basics of card counting is that you bet more when you have a good "count" and that you bet less when the count is bad. How much of a spread does it take to reduce the house edge? For example, if my normal bet is $500 and I bet $1,000 when the count is good, does that make a big difference? Or does it take a much large spread? Just curious.
3. What is the average house advantage in blackjack for players who do not play basic strategy? Two percent? Three percent? Higher?
Thanks for the advice and input.
YES, you should really sit there with a color strategy card from WOO. And you will get to tell lots of people where you got it.
Quote: DonPedroVery easy to learn BS once you group the similar plays,i.e:
2's/3's- split vs 2-7
4's split vs 5/6
6's split vs 2-6
7's split vs 2-7
A's/8's always
5's/10's never
A2/3- double vs 5/6
A4/A5- double vs 4-6
A/6- double vs 3-6
A/7- double vs 3-6 ( stand vs 2,7,8)
A/8- double vs 6
I have found that basic strategy changes depending on (a) whether or not it is a 3-deck or larger game, and (b) whether or not the dealer hits soft 17. However, my basic strategy seems to be slightly different from yours:
In all cases:
Don't split 6s with a 2 showing
You left out 9s - split with anything except an Ace, 7, or 10 showing
In a "dealer hits on soft 17" game:
Double A/7 with a 2 showing
In a "dealer stands on soft 17" game:
Don't double A/2 or A/8
Don't double 11 with an Ace showing (yes, that does sound crazy, doesn't it?)
In a 3-deck or larger game:
Don't double A2 with a 5 showing (just a 6)
Hit a hard 16 with a 10 showing
My advice would be to figure out how you think and how you learn and approach it from that perspective. If it takes flashcards, do that. If you just need to study and study and study some more until it is ingrained in your brain, do that. I think with enough time, a vast majority of the decisions become intuitive, especially to someone who is already very familiar with the game. Once you feel fairly confident in your abilities, play the Wiz's trainer, as others have suggested. That way you will begin to notice the hands/situations that you need to improve upon.
Games that I play are 2-6 D, H17
Good points and well said !
2nd sentence paragraph 3
Quote: JuniorWizWhat does this mean?: hitting Player Ace vs Dealer Six
2nd sentence paragraph 3
Sorry. "Player Ace" is our term for a two card hand totaling 11, "our" meaning the crew I work with. Could be 9,2 / 8,3 / 7,4.... it's not a proper term, nor would you be likely to hear it anywhere, it's just something we use as shorthand speak. I guess it slipped out when I wasn't looking =p
I should have said Player Eleven vs Dealer Six.
Quote: odiousgambitYes, the WoO game does give you a pop-up letting you know when you goof, it's been good for me.
Windows actually used to come with a program like that, called Dr Blackjack, that taught basic strategy. It was right there next to Solitaire in your Accessories menu, and it let you know what your mistakes were when you made them. No idea why they took it out; it was a neat little feature. I'm not sure whether I've seen it on any OS more recent than Win95 (which did include it).
Quote: dmYES, you should really sit there with a color strategy card from WOO. And you will get to tell lots of people where you got it.
An excellent basic strategy trainer. About the only thing it doesn't let you set is resplitting aces and penetration. You will have to copy and paste, I can't figure out how to do links in this forum:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bst/bst.htm
Quote: dmYES, you should really sit there with a color strategy card from WOO. And you will get to tell lots of people where you got it.
An excellent basic strategy trainer. About the only thing it doesn't let you set is resplitting aces and penetration. You will have to copy and paste, I can't figure out how to do links in this forum:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bst/bst.htm