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March 12th, 2011 at 6:11:42 AM permalink
Looks like we may keep 3:2 BJ here for some time!

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/gambling/s_726986.html
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March 12th, 2011 at 6:44:06 AM permalink
Surprising that only "more than 20" people wrote the gaming board (myself included). I was quite surprised to get a personalized reply from Ms. Yocum, too.

Glad to hear that the good rules will stay in Pa. (and DE for now).

-B
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March 12th, 2011 at 6:47:54 AM permalink
Quote: toastcmu

Surprising that only "more than 20" people wrote the gaming board (myself included). I was quite surprised to get a personalized reply from Ms. Yocum, too.

Glad to hear that the good rules will stay in Pa. (and DE for now).

-B



I never thought to write, though maybe I will about the deceiving BJ bar-top games that claim 2:1 payoff but really 2 for 1.
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March 12th, 2011 at 10:00:44 AM permalink
I don't think that the requirement to keep what used to be industry standard player favorable rules is too much to ask since the minimum bets are so high. I doubt that you can find a BJ table in Pennsylvania with anything lower than $15 (and the median is probably much higher).

Nevada has 3000 Blackjack tables spread over 147 location. PA has 640 (non-electric, and non-poker) tables for all of their games over 10 locations.
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March 12th, 2011 at 10:15:36 AM permalink
Quote: toastcmu

Glad to hear that the good rules will stay in Pa. (and DE for now).

-B



This is holding up in WV too? anybody know?
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March 12th, 2011 at 12:03:27 PM permalink
Colorado authorities caved into the industry virtually right away.
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March 12th, 2011 at 12:07:30 PM permalink
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This is holding up in WV too? anybody know?



Odious, not sure what you mean? I've only see the same mainstream rules as AC (8d h17 das) at Charles Town. You have to go to the high limit area of CT to get S17, which is out of my price range.

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March 12th, 2011 at 12:25:08 PM permalink
Quote: toastcmu

Odious, not sure what you mean? I've only see the same mainstream rules as AC (8d h17 das) at Charles Town. You have to go to the high limit area of CT to get S17, which is out of my price range.

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March 12th, 2011 at 1:39:46 PM permalink
Quote: toastcmu

Odious, not sure what you mean?



It was a question. You'd think WV would want to compete with PA and DE .... what am I saying? Charles Town seems to have it made, they probably figure they're stupid for not paying 6:5 etc, and are probably right. I walked though once when in the area. Tangled with some suit about something, bought a cup of coffee and left.

I am going to do some gambling [looks like] elsewhere in WV. The rules are the same everywhere?

PS: this review claims they stand on soft 17 at charles town btw:

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House has 0.48% edge. Dealer stands on soft 17, player may double on any two cards, player may double after splitting, no surrender, no resplitting of Aces. This is a fast game and averages about 70 hands per hour.



http://www.moneygreenlife.com/review-of-hollywood-casino-at-charles-town-wva/
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March 12th, 2011 at 2:10:32 PM permalink
The Seneca Nation casinos in Niagara Falls and Salamanca, New York have 3:2 BJ with stand on soft 17 and you can always find $10 BJ tables.
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March 12th, 2011 at 2:38:39 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

It was a question. You'd think WV would want to compete with PA and DE .... what am I saying? Charles Town seems to have it made, they probably figure they're stupid for not paying 6:5 etc, and are probably right. I walked though once when in the area. Tangled with some suit about something, bought a cup of coffee and left.

I am going to do some gambling [looks like] elsewhere in WV. The rules are the same everywhere?

PS: this review claims they stand on soft 17 at charles town btw:



http://www.moneygreenlife.com/review-of-hollywood-casino-at-charles-town-wva/



I'm not sure if the rules are standardized in WV versus PA and DE - I read the blackjack part of that review as what the reviewer views as the five best bets in a casino - Spanish 21 is listed, and it's definitely not offered at CT.

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March 12th, 2011 at 2:52:53 PM permalink
Looks like the prediction I made in an article about this will be wrong

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MICHAEL SHACKLEFORD, operator of WizardOfOdds.com: I predict that within two years, the casinos will pressure Pennsylvania government to allow games that pay 6-to-5 on a blackjack. It will not be difficult for the casinos to make a persuasive case about the millions of additional revenue this rule change will bring in. However, what the casinos and state budgets gain, blackjack players will lose. I just want to warn players that what happened in Atlantic City will likely happen in Pennsylvania. For decades, 100 percent of blackjack tables in Atlantic City had the liberal rules you see now in Pennsylvania. Now the 6-to-5 and hit soft 17 games are slowly gaining more tables. Six-to-5 blackjack is a sucker game. I leave it up to the people of Pennsylvania to decide if it should even be legal.



Source: Tighter blackjack rules would hurt players' bankroll -- PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, Feb 4. 2011
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March 12th, 2011 at 4:35:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Looks like the prediction I made in an article about this will be wrong
Source: Tighter blackjack rules would hurt players' bankroll -- PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, Feb 4. 2011



Keep in mind that the tables have only been operating for seven months. You might still be correct.
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March 13th, 2011 at 3:12:53 AM permalink
I am not sure your prediction was wrong...you said that the operators would pressure them to ease the rules and allow 6:5 Crapjack. They are doing that--if they ask, they aren't asking without pressure--the decision just did not go their way THIS TIME. The bad part about it is they will likely continue to apply pressure and have this change made once people are not paying attention. Once no one is looking, this rule will be changed...hopefully, players will keep stating their case to the board...
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March 20th, 2011 at 11:06:12 PM permalink
I doubt that you can find a BJ table in Pennsylvania with anything lower than $15 (and the median is probably much higher).

Clearly, you do not live in Pennsylvania.
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May 11th, 2011 at 11:03:35 AM permalink
Thanksfully PA is keep 3 to 2 blackjack for now. However, if you play the Shuffle Master's Royal Match video blackjack machines, they do NOT stand on soft 17. Learned that the hard way when a video machine dealer showed an 6 and then flipped over A for a soft 17. An then drew a 4 for 21. (Gee whiz beaver... how'd that happen?)
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July 30th, 2011 at 10:17:16 AM permalink
Hard to believe it has been a year since table games. Hard to believe it has only been a year. But it is, and the PA Gaming Powers-that-be are getting ready to make the temporary rules permanant. Here is the article:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/gambling/s_749134.html

Inside there is an email address to make your voice heard. STAND UP AGAINST 6:5 BLACKJACK! Remember, you are dealing with a high government person so please be polite. I have not posted the email here to avoid spambots picking it up and causing them any problems. I also know the author is a member here so if he wants to add anything please feel free.
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