dmorris
Joined: Mar 8, 2011
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March 8th, 2011 at 2:31:51 PM permalink
Would the odds and Strategy change dramatically vrs ENHC with early surrender? Here are the basic rules;

* No Hole Card
* Early Surrender
*Dealer hits Blackjack all bets lose including original bet on surrenders
* Hits soft 17
* 6 Deck continuos shuffle
* Blackjack pays 3/2

I have been looking for hours on end but obviously this is not a common set of rules...

Help!
Kellynbnf
Joined: May 5, 2010
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March 8th, 2011 at 4:13:28 PM permalink
The main strategy differences between ENHC and a hole-card game are that with the exception of AA vs. 10 do not double or split if the dealer is showing a 10 or Ace.

Now with surrender, for ES you would surrender 14-16 (including 77 and 88) vs. 10 and 16 (excluding 88) vs. 9 (with a 2-9 up ES and LS are identical as no dealer blackjack is possible). If the casino allows ES against an Ace, you would surrender 12-17 and 4-7 (including any pairs adding up to those totals) vs. A.

A bit of clarification about the statement that all bets lose including original bet on surrenders if the dealer has a BJ, if you are allowed to keep half only if the dealer doesn't end up with a BJ that is essentially the same as late surrender. In that case you would use the standard LS strategy for surrendering except that you would also surrender 88 vs. 10 or Ace (since you don't split in that case and treat it as a 16 due to the ENHC rule).
WizardofEngland
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March 9th, 2011 at 4:57:34 AM permalink
Quote: stinsonsmart

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That's very helpful advice, I will be sure to check that game out next time I visit a casino.
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odiousgambit
Joined: Nov 9, 2009
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March 9th, 2011 at 7:24:09 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

Quote: stinsonsmart

The object of the blackjack game is to accumulate cards with points totals as close to 21 without going over 21. To win you need to beat the dealer without busting. You bust when your cards total to more than 21 and you lose automatically. The winner is whoever has closest to a total of 21. You reach 21 by adding up the values of the cards. The blackjack table seats about 6 players. Either six or eight decks of cards are used and are shuffled together by the dealer and placed in a car dispersing box called Shoe. For more information you may check this link http://www.onlineblackjacklist.com

' rel='nofollow' target='_blank'>http://www.onlineblackjacklist.com"]http://www.onlineblackjacklist.com

That's very helpful advice, I will be sure to check that game out next time I visit a casino.

was that spamming or something? the post is gone. BTW I am getting pretty convinced that the object of the game is to survive all decisions as best you can so that the you can be in positive territory when your Blackjacks hit.
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