Harrahs High Roller Blackjack Options
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January 18th, 2022 at 4:49:27 PM
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Hello…played at Harrahs High Rollers Blackjack table the other night…2 tables…both 3:2…one was hit on soft 17..2 e other stand on 17 …4 deck …which one is better player edge?
January 18th, 2022 at 7:59:46 PM
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You joined in december of 2015 (literally over 6 years ago) and haven't made 1 thread or 1 post and your first question is which is obvious better? =DQuote: jsvegasHello…played at Harrahs High Rollers Blackjack table the other night…2 tables…both 3:2…one was hit on soft 17..2 e other stand on 17 …4 deck …which one is better player edge?
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Well, in any case, the wizard has a blackjack house edge calculator. Lots of plug and play options, have fun:
https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 18th, 2022 at 10:58:33 PM
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Thanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
January 19th, 2022 at 4:25:23 AM
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Romes link answers your question. Did you click it?
Stand 17 has less house edge. Neither has a player advantage as played with basic strategy.
Stand 17 has less house edge. Neither has a player advantage as played with basic strategy.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
January 19th, 2022 at 4:32:22 AM
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Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Welcome back to the forum.
To the best of my.knowledge, Romes is a real player.
It is just mildly surprising to see someone return from a 7 year forum hiatus, but I suppose that if you didn't have questions to ask, not posting would make sense.
The edge calculators on WoO are pretty good. Be sure to note the strategy changes, and compare the penetration if that sort of thing is important. I think you may want to compare SCORE, not just HE.
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 19th, 2022 at 9:26:57 AM
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THANK you!… nice answer
January 19th, 2022 at 10:00:02 AM
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Dealer stand on soft 17 is lower house edge.
But...
I lost, okay? How could you say "always"?
But...
I lost, okay? How could you say "always"?
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
January 20th, 2022 at 10:00:55 AM
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I did click it…my main thought was maybe fewer decks would influence the stand on vs hit in this situation
January 20th, 2022 at 1:51:26 PM
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/ <<< this link may be helpful as well.
January 21st, 2022 at 4:08:27 AM
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ROMES answered your question. A simple "Thank-you" would have been more appropriate.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
January 23rd, 2022 at 5:00:20 PM
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Oh, right, you're just a supreme human being that is allowed to be super selfish and post things that can be found JOKE EASILY on the same site you posted on, but expect others to do it for you for some reason. Sorry I didn't jump all over helping you sooner since you've contributed zero to these forums other than showing just what type of person you are. Have a nice life.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 23rd, 2022 at 5:47:40 PM
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Quote: RomesOh, right, you're just a supreme human being that is allowed to be super selfish and post things that can be found JOKE EASILY on the same site you posted on, but expect others to do it for you for some reason. Sorry I didn't jump all over helping you sooner since you've contributed zero to these forums other than showing just what type of person you are. Have a nice life.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Geez man. Did your dog die or something?
January 24th, 2022 at 7:14:20 AM
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Quote: mcallister3200Quote: RomesOh, right, you're just a supreme human being that is allowed to be super selfish and post things that can be found JOKE EASILY on the same site you posted on,but expect others to do it for you for some reason. Sorry I didn't jump all over helping you sooner since you've contributed zero to these forums other than showing just what type of person you are. Have a nice life.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Geez man. Did your dog die or something?
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On an internet forum, having other people respond to your requests and be helpful is NOT a right. It is a privilege. And such a privilege usually must be earned with some minimum standards of courtesy.
BTW, Romes is a well-known long-time member of our forum who has written how-to articles on card counting the game of blackjack. I have had some off-forum association with Romes and he has earned my respect on many levels many times over. I am proud that he is a member of WOV forum and grateful that he occasionally takes time from his busy life and tries to help people here who are genuinely asking for help.
And I know that Romes doesn't need me to defend him, but dammit, that needed to be said.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
January 24th, 2022 at 7:26:40 AM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: mcallister3200Quote: RomesOh, right, you're just a supreme human being that is allowed to be super selfish and post things that can be found JOKE EASILY on the same site you posted on,but expect others to do it for you for some reason. Sorry I didn't jump all over helping you sooner since you've contributed zero to these forums other than showing just what type of person you are. Have a nice life.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Geez man. Did your dog die or something?
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On an internet forum, having other people respond to your requests and be helpful is NOT a right. It is a privilege. And such a privilege usually must be earned with some minimum standards of courtesy.
BTW, Romes is a well-known long-time member of our forum who has written how-to articles on card counting the game of blackjack. I have had some off-forum association with Romes and he has earned my respect on many levels many times over. I am proud that he is a member of WOV forum and grateful that he occasionally takes time from his busy life and tries to help people here who are genuinely asking for help.
And I know that Romes doesn't need me to defend him, but dammit, that needed to be said.
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I know who he is, his contributions, have met him, and have several mutual acquaintances. I meant to be sarcastic, perhaps came off wrong. If Romes takes any offense to it, I apologize for that.
In this case it has no effect on my opinion, but if anything, you vouching for someone would lower my opinion of said person because of your “my shit don’t stink” way of carrying yourself. Go find a double amputee to vouch for. Good day or week or whatever comes.
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January 24th, 2022 at 9:19:45 AM
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Quote: mcallister3200Quote: gordonm888Quote: mcallister3200Quote: RomesOh, right, you're just a supreme human being that is allowed to be super selfish and post things that can be found JOKE EASILY on the same site you posted on,but expect others to do it for you for some reason. Sorry I didn't jump all over helping you sooner since you've contributed zero to these forums other than showing just what type of person you are. Have a nice life.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Geez man. Did your dog die or something?
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On an internet forum, having other people respond to your requests and be helpful is NOT a right. It is a privilege. And such a privilege usually must be earned with some minimum standards of courtesy.
BTW, Romes is a well-known long-time member of our forum who has written how-to articles on card counting the game of blackjack. I have had some off-forum association with Romes and he has earned my respect on many levels many times over. I am proud that he is a member of WOV forum and grateful that he occasionally takes time from his busy life and tries to help people here who are genuinely asking for help.
And I know that Romes doesn't need me to defend him, but dammit, that needed to be said.
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I know who he is, his contributions, have met him, and have several mutual acquaintances. I meant to be sarcastic, perhaps came off wrong. If Romes takes any offense to it, I apologize for that.
In this case it has no effect on my opinion, but if anything, you vouching for someone would lower my opinion of said person because of your “my shit don’t stink” way of carrying yourself. Go find a double amputee to vouch for. Good day or week or whatever comes.
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Did your dog die or something?
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
January 24th, 2022 at 12:35:04 PM
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Quote: mcallister3200
In this case it has no effect on my opinion, but if anything, you vouching for someone would lower my opinion of said person because of your “my shit don’t stink” way of carrying yourself. Go find a double amputee to vouch for. Good day or week or whatever comes.
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I am married, so every day of my life I have someone who reminds me how un-special I am! Duly noted that you have an unfavorable opinion of me and no hard feelings on my part.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
January 24th, 2022 at 1:48:41 PM
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Uh, "thank-you" for raising the bar on the level of discourse here ?Quote: mcallister3200
In this case it has no effect on my opinion, but if anything, you vouching for someone would lower my opinion of said person because of your “my shit don’t stink” way of carrying yourself. Go find a double amputee to vouch for. Good day or week or whatever comes.
Did you read your post and count to ten before posting ?
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
January 24th, 2022 at 3:55:35 PM
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Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Poll - Should Romes go back to video games?
January 24th, 2022 at 5:16:12 PM
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Can everyone please relax, yes sending the calculator was an answer. One could also have said standing on the soft 17 is better. Either way let's all be kind to each other, one never knows what might be going on with someone else...
January 25th, 2022 at 10:08:04 AM
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I voted yes... more fun.Quote: DonutsQuote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Poll - Should Romes go back to video games?
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Appreciate the kinds words Gordon. I wasn't too miffed, just the 1,000,000th person to think the world, and subsequently this forum, revolved around them =).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 25th, 2022 at 4:53:48 PM
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WHY CAN'T I VOTE ON THIS???Quote: DonutsQuote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Poll - Should Romes go back to video games?
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 25th, 2022 at 5:02:38 PM
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Click the link - it's a close race 50% of people want Romes to switch careers and be a pro gamer.
January 25th, 2022 at 5:22:57 PM
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Quote: DonutsClick the link - it's a close race 50% of people want Romes to switch careers and be a pro gamer.
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I kinda thought Romes already played games for money.
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 25th, 2022 at 9:13:00 PM
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More than you know.Quote: DieterQuote: DonutsClick the link - it's a close race 50% of people want Romes to switch careers and be a pro gamer.
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I kinda thought Romes already played games for money.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 25th, 2022 at 10:44:36 PM
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I have in the past, but it's been a while. We would pay for teams to drive to lan with us in Halo 1 as long as they played a min of $1k/game and a min of 3 games. Back before online play if people could beat everyone in their friends circle/town they just automatically thought they were one of the best in the world. Seriously amazing how many thousands we made and the games were total blowouts. We literally never lost a money match, but were apparently too content & stupid to lookup MLG (Major League Gaming) and go to real tourney's. Then the internet came along and humbled a lot of people (not from being trolls, but from betting money anyways).Quote: DieterQuote: DonutsClick the link - it's a close race 50% of people want Romes to switch careers and be a pro gamer.
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I kinda thought Romes already played games for money.
...but my options of going pro gamer at this point are pretty slim, simply due to age and slowing reaction times. Maybe pro streamer? (had to throw that in to keep axel's excitement level up)
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 26th, 2022 at 11:03:47 AM
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Quote: RomesI have in the past, but it's been a while. We would pay for teams to drive to lan with us in Halo 1 as long as they played a min of $1k/game and a min of 3 games. Back before online play if people could beat everyone in their friends circle/town they just automatically thought they were one of the best in the world. Seriously amazing how many thousands we made and the games were total blowouts. We literally never lost a money match, but were apparently too content & stupid to lookup MLG (Major League Gaming) and go to real tourney's. Then the internet came along and humbled a lot of people (not from being trolls, but from betting money anyways).Quote: DieterQuote: DonutsClick the link - it's a close race 50% of people want Romes to switch careers and be a pro gamer.
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I kinda thought Romes already played games for money.
...but my options of going pro gamer at this point are pretty slim, simply due to age and slowing reaction times. Maybe pro streamer? (had to throw that in to keep axel's excitement level up)
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Do you remember Super Smash Melee pre-internet/streaming? Everyone thought they were the unbeatable if they could beat their friend group.
January 26th, 2022 at 11:56:55 AM
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Many years ago, I had a friend that was a true pinball wizard and then got into some video game that he was the best at. He wanted to go to a tournament in an amusement park in Ohio but as usual, he was flat-busted. We raised $400 for him and he agreed to split his winnings with us. I think he needed to finish in the top ten or so for us to get all our money back but he convinced us he would win.
He came in 297th out of around 800. He came home crushed. He'd honestly thought he was the best in the world.
He came in 297th out of around 800. He came home crushed. He'd honestly thought he was the best in the world.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 27th, 2022 at 3:05:03 PM
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Oh even better, that's the only other console game we played people in for money... well the n64 super smash original anyways. Still play it randomly from time to time with my brother/friends now. Such a good game.Quote: DonutsQuote: RomesI have in the past, but it's been a while. We would pay for teams to drive to lan with us in Halo 1 as long as they played a min of $1k/game and a min of 3 games. Back before online play if people could beat everyone in their friends circle/town they just automatically thought they were one of the best in the world. Seriously amazing how many thousands we made and the games were total blowouts. We literally never lost a money match, but were apparently too content & stupid to lookup MLG (Major League Gaming) and go to real tourney's. Then the internet came along and humbled a lot of people (not from being trolls, but from betting money anyways).Quote: DieterQuote: DonutsClick the link - it's a close race 50% of people want Romes to switch careers and be a pro gamer.
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I kinda thought Romes already played games for money.
...but my options of going pro gamer at this point are pretty slim, simply due to age and slowing reaction times. Maybe pro streamer? (had to throw that in to keep axel's excitement level up)
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Do you remember Super Smash Melee pre-internet/streaming? Everyone thought they were the unbeatable if they could beat their friend group.
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Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 31st, 2022 at 9:03:40 AM
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Quote: unJonQuote: mcallister3200Quote: gordonm888Quote: mcallister3200Quote: RomesOh, right, you're just a supreme human being that is allowed to be super selfish and post things that can be found JOKE EASILY on the same site you posted on,but expect others to do it for you for some reason. Sorry I didn't jump all over helping you sooner since you've contributed zero to these forums other than showing just what type of person you are. Have a nice life.Quote: jsvegasThanks for your stupid answer…what does it matter how long ago I joined?…go back to your video games
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Geez man. Did your dog die or something?
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On an internet forum, having other people respond to your requests and be helpful is NOT a right. It is a privilege. And such a privilege usually must be earned with some minimum standards of courtesy.
BTW, Romes is a well-known long-time member of our forum who has written how-to articles on card counting the game of blackjack. I have had some off-forum association with Romes and he has earned my respect on many levels many times over. I am proud that he is a member of WOV forum and grateful that he occasionally takes time from his busy life and tries to help people here who are genuinely asking for help.
And I know that Romes doesn't need me to defend him, but dammit, that needed to be said.
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I know who he is, his contributions, have met him, and have several mutual acquaintances. I meant to be sarcastic, perhaps came off wrong. If Romes takes any offense to it, I apologize for that.
In this case it has no effect on my opinion, but if anything, you vouching for someone would lower my opinion of said person because of your “my shit don’t stink” way of carrying yourself. Go find a double amputee to vouch for. Good day or week or whatever comes.
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Did your dog die or something?
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My bad….must have woken up with a kink in my neck or something.
Geez, what do I have to do to get suspended around here…was counting on 7-30 days.
For whatever reason you just don’t vibe with some people and I tend to react when gordo moderates me or I perceive him as doing so, that’s on me to deal with better though.
January 31st, 2022 at 9:35:21 AM
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Quote: mcallister3200Geez, what do I have to do to get suspended around here…was counting on 7-30 days.
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If you think you've violated a rule and deserve a suspension, you are invited to PM a moderator.
May the cards fall in your favor.
