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July 22nd, 2021 at 2:44:55 PM permalink
this is blackjack im speaking about

Lets say i knew where i could get a guaranteed table by myself with HALF of the amounts of decks that is normally offered by the casino... so normally they offer 8 decks to people who want to play by themselves... but what i am talking about is being able to play by myself with 4 decks for the same minimums that is normally offered at an 8 deck game...

lets also say that there was only one fix to the "play" and its been "fixed" up already so it doesnt exist any more

is this an advantage?

is it considered an advantage "play"?
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July 22nd, 2021 at 2:53:44 PM permalink
This is too vague for me.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 2:56:00 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

This is too vague for me.



i think because its dead simple...

you have one table that has 4 decks offered

and you have another that has 8

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if i sit at the one that offers 4 decks, am i at a bigger advantage against the casino if i sit at the 8 deck table...?
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July 22nd, 2021 at 2:58:28 PM permalink
I got that. Didn’t follow the play that was “fixed”.

But sure, 4 decks a bit better than 8 (“less disadvantageous”). But it’s like cars. Quick diminishing marginal returns on MPG once you get out far enough.

ETA: I take that back. I don’t know answer as to where the cut card effect trumps the more decks worse effect. Has to happen somewhere since a CSM is better than 6 decks.
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July 22nd, 2021 at 3:05:19 PM permalink
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I got that. Didn’t follow the play that was “fixed”.

But sure, 4 decks a bit better than 8. But it’s like cars. Quick diminishing marginal returns on MPG once you get out far enough.



well this was offered on PokerStars

if you have ever played poker on there, their POKER lobbies AUTOMATICALLY create a new table for every table when someone adds themselves to any table

this is so they never run out of tables to offer and so they can make as much money as possible

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Now on to the blackjack

what i am speaking about is digital "atlantic city" blackjack

pokerstars pa offered two versions of this game - one was an 8 deck game that one player could play by themselves

the other was a MULTIPLAYER version that was capped at 4 decks

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the trick was that WHENEVER anyone entered one of these "tables" - a new empty tables was ALWAYS created - and you didnt have to play with the other people at the table

"the fix" was them removing the "lobby" so that you cant see when a new table was created - as well as not being able to chose which table you can sit at - they just randomly plop you into any table that is open and running
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July 23rd, 2021 at 5:45:20 AM permalink
All other thing being equal, a 4 deck game is better than an 8 deck game by 0.083%
A $100 flat bettor would save $8.30 per hundred hands at a 4 decks game.
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July 23rd, 2021 at 6:55:57 AM permalink
In general the lower number of decks is slightly better for a basic strategy player assuming all other rules are the same.
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July 23rd, 2021 at 7:21:44 AM permalink
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In general the lower number of decks is slightly better for a basic strategy player assuming all other rules are the same.



But, this can’t continue to be true or CSM wouldn’t be better for player then a shoe. In other words, doesn’t that imply that infinite decks is better than a 6 or 8 deck shoe? Or is there something I’m missing?
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July 23rd, 2021 at 8:59:19 AM permalink
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But, this can’t continue to be true or CSM wouldn’t be better for player then a shoe. In other words, doesn’t that imply that infinite decks is better than a 6 or 8 deck shoe? Or is there something I’m missing?



I think infinite deck is better for the basic strategy player.
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July 23rd, 2021 at 11:40:40 AM permalink
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I think infinite deck is better for the basic strategy player.



Anyone know the inflection point where more decks becomes better for the player? Be an interesting graph to see.
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