Odds Trivia
Say I just won some money counting cards at a very small Indian reservation casino (only 1 6 deck table that was full, 1 Double deck)
And I won an amount that a big place wouldn't care about, but a place like this isn't used to. And say I had to be a bit obvious about it because it's double-deck (6 deck was full), but as soon as I had a great positive count shoe, I left.
By how much do you think that would increase the odds of getting trailed by a cop right after leaving the reservation land, and eventually pulled over a few miles later and cited over some infractions that could only be noticeable after he was trailing me?
One giveaway was the cop asked me if I had any drugs in the vehicle, which never happened before (my face doesn't scream drug dealer/user, but quite the opposite) it's as if he was told that I had a suspicious amount of cash?
Quote: MrVWas it a tribal cop?
No, normal one. But that place was so small and just a mile off the highway, I'm pretty sure they didn't have tribal cops
Quote: tyler498This forum is all about calculating odds so I'm curious:
Say I just won some money counting cards at a very small Indian reservation casino (only 1 6 deck table that was full, 1 Double deck)
And I won an amount that a big place wouldn't care about, but a place like this isn't used to. And say I had to be a bit obvious about it because it's double-deck (6 deck was full), but as soon as I had a great positive count shoe, I left.
By how much do you think that would increase the odds of getting trailed by a cop right after leaving the reservation land, and eventually pulled over a few miles later and cited over some infractions that could only be noticeable after he was trailing me?
One giveaway was the cop asked me if I had any drugs in the vehicle, which never happened before (my face doesn't scream drug dealer/user, but quite the opposite) it's as if he was told that I had a suspicious amount of cash?
To answer your question first 0%. Did this actually occur or are you just asking about a fictitious event? A cop would need "probable cause" to pull you over. So before going further, you need to answer those questions. If it was real, did you get a ticket and for what?
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymTo answer your question first 0%. Did this actually occur or are you just asking about a fictitious event? A cop would need "probable cause" to pull you over. So before going further, you need to answer those questions. If it was real, did you get a ticket and for what?
tuttigym
I totally disagree with your response.
Yes technically the police need a probable cause to pull you over, but they can and do fabricate a probable cause.
This has happened in the past when players have left tribal casinos.
In small towns heck even in big towns the cops are often in bed with the casinos.
I have first hand knowledge where surveillance operators call local police and ask them to run the plates on a player’s vehicle.
As our resident craps expert said, the police are our friends and if you hadn't done anything wrong, they wouldn't have stopped you.
Perhaps you should more time in church and less taking advantage of our Indian brothers and sisters.
I know that casino group keeps law enforcement close at hand. One employee was telling me that the sherriff would have someone there within 3 minutes of "the call", despite them being 15 minutes away from the nearest outpost by any normal kind of driving.
The sherriff's department apparently catches enough distracted/intoxicated drivers along that stretch of road that it's worth their time to have someone there if nothing else is going on, or a quota needs filling.
I can believe that your adrenaline may have been heightened from your prior success, your hands may not have been at 10 & 2, and you didn't realize if your right foot got heavier.
They likely would not have needed a "the call" from the casino to notice you, but I don't preclude it.
Police observing and patrolling just outside tribal land sounds pretty common. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Quote: DieterI know I got pulled over by county police about a mile down the road from a tribal casino. (I'm fine. Thanks. I did have to pay a fine.)
I know that casino group keeps law enforcement close at hand. One employee was telling me that the sherriff would have someone there within 3 minutes of "the call", despite them being 15 minutes away from the nearest outpost by any normal kind of driving.
The sherriff's department apparently catches enough distracted/intoxicated drivers along that stretch of road that it's worth their time to have someone there if nothing else is going on, or a quota needs filling.
I can believe that your adrenaline may have been heightened from your prior success, your hands may not have been at 10 & 2, and you didn't realize if your right foot got heavier.
They likely would not have needed a "the call" from the casino to notice you, but I don't preclude it.
Police observing and patrolling just outside tribal land sounds pretty common. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Correct. To add a few more details:
Yes this did happen.
The reason i was pulled over was expired tags, which at night is hard to see. The cop wasn't just driving behind me, he was pulled over and started driving as soon as i passed him.
What surprised me is he asked about drugs, and also asked me to step out and take a picture of me with his phone...but I'm still not convinced it was related to the casino. I do kinda drive faster than average
Quote: tyler498
The reason i was pulled over was expired tags, which at night is hard to see.
It is not safe to assume that.
Just like many APs cannot learn to unsee opportunities in minor details, people who spend all day watching cars go by may easily notice relevant minutiae.
He also had a minute to call in (or type in) your tag while following you and observing your (possibly erratic) driving.
Probably a good time to get your tags renewed to current and check that all the lights work. If you don't want to get pulled over, don't look like an easy target.
