Roulette vs Blackjack

Hello ain! :)) Is european roulette (single zero) safer when it comes to progressive betting strategies? I've just calculated that the odds for colors or odd/even are 18/37 = 0.4864 => 48.64%, wich doesn't seem that bad. Now we have blackjack were there are 42.43% probability for a win, 8.48% for a push and 49.09% for a loss, according to wizard of odds. Since we don't care about pushes we must recalculate the win and loss probability: 42.43 / (42.43 + 49.09) = 46.36% win. I know in blackjack are some better returns cuz when you get a blackjack you get paid x 1.5 but this doesn't change the fact that the probability of winning a hand is still lower than winning a spin on roulette (46.36 < 48.64), this making roulette more suitable than blackjack when it comes to progressive betting systems like l'Abouchere (if the roulette it's not rigged, ofcourse :)) ). Is it even worth that 2.3% winning probability gain, making roulette stand better agains l'Abouchere wich I think it is the best betting strategy since you must win only 33% + 2 hands/spins or something like that and still get profits and the only killer for this strategy beeing some crazy loosing series. Or it doesn't matter that much when it comes to loosing series and the fact that blackjack pays x1.5 when you have blackjack makes blackjack better than roulette in the end anyway? Thanks and sorry for my bad english!

My local casino has $10-$100 limits on the outside numbers on the roulette table. They've murdered the game.

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Or it doesn't matter that much when it comes to loosing series and the fact that blackjack pays x1.5 when you have blackjack makes blackjack better than roulette in the end anyway? Thanks and sorry for my bad english!

This is correct. It doesn't matter what system you use. Of course, this assumes your blackjack strategy is good enough that you actually get a 42.43% chance of winning and 8.48% chance of pushing.

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Hello ain! :)) Is european roulette (single zero) safer when it comes to progressive betting strategies?

Safer? You need to define safer. If you are worried about wiping out your bankroll because of a cluster of losing bets, then that's a touch more likely with Blackjack. But with Blackjack, there will be occasional Blackjacks which will lurch your bankroll upwards. One thing that makes blackjack more risky is that you will occasionally find yourself obliged* to split and or double a hand many times. It's super amusing and scary to split a pair, say 8s and then have an 8 dealt to those, plit again and get 3s dealt to those obliging* you to double and lay LOTS of chips on what was one hand. So.... Blackjack having the greater variance increases your probability of going bust.... or of winning big.
BUT blackjack has the much smaller edge. Choose your wager and stake so as to manage the speed at which you lose.

I mention obligation to split or double. Unless you see that obligation to play hands as well as you should, then you should simply not be playing the game. Hitting a low point in bankroll just as you need to split or double is a sure route to bad play and oblivion.

There's never obligation to do progressives as full marty. You need to decide what your session goal is. If you aspire to increase your bankroll by a set amount, then don't place any bet that gives the possibility of exceeding that profit, or else you also increase the probability of going bust.

Progressive betting is fun. More fun than flat betting. It's not a route to wealth and the price you pay is to risk your entire bankroll.

Crazy Losing Series...... They are not crazy, nor are they infrequent or unexpected and they must never be discounted as never going to get you, because they will.

https://wizardofvegas.com/member/oncedear/blog/5/#post1370

Play what is fun, for fun. Russian roulette is exciting and fun, but not so much when you lose. That's the nature with progressives.

Stay safe.

If you can wind up in the Griffin Book for spreading $25-$500 on 2 spots as a card counter, what's gonna happen if you spread $10-$1000 as a progression bettor who doesn't count cards?

People always compare the percentage of winning hands in BJ vs. winning spins in roulette. I think they are approaching it wrong. Compare the percentage of losing hands. A hand that pushes is not a loss, and actually has some value to the bettor. Over the long run, those thousands of pushed hands will result in some decent comps.
That said, no progressive system will win you money in the long run.

I'll have to take this 10,000 bets at a time.

Any game is “better” than roulette, even slots. Just my opinion

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Any game is “better” than roulette, even slots. Just my opinion

Your opinion is wrong. Most slots hold over 10% where single zero roullette he is playing only has a 2.7% house advantage. Or about 1.5% if his game has enprison.

The vast majority of roulette tables in the USA have an edge of 5.3%

But I wasn’t referring to the edge. It’s just such a mindless game...in my opinion.

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If you can wind up in the Griffin Book for spreading $25-$500 on 2 spots as a card counter, what's gonna happen if you spread $10-$1000 as a progression bettor who doesn't count cards?

This is why short sessions and only showing your spread once works. A lot of people think the big tell of a card counter is the spread. It is NOT! It is retreating back from the large bet when the dealer shuffles and the count goes neutral again. THAT is the really big tell.

A player spreading from say $25 to $500 as mentioned, that could be a player playing some sort of progression, which the casinos love. Or it could be a player chasing losses which again the casinos love. It could be a player "chipping up" or pressing bets as he wins. Or it could just be a hunch player. You just can't determine for sure only seeing the bets go one way....up, even if they corelate up with the count for that shoe (small sample size).

But the retreating back...whoa...major red flag. And then a second or third time progressing up again corelating with the count and you are pegged.

If you play short sessions and only show your spread once and then exit, it is very hard to definitively say for sure.

I find the pits always raise the table minimums just when I show up, so I have to find some way to increase my session money early-on to be able to stay in the game.

Slots also involve many more spins per hour. Bigger hold and more spins = bad game.