Rosebud
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September 14th, 2020 at 11:35:41 AM permalink
Hi Everyone,

I was looking at the following page on the various combinations of rules you can have for blackjack:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/hand-calculator/

I was wondering, what would be the "typical" parameters you'd see at a 3:2 game? Is it what is set as default on that page? Also, how different would it be on a single deck game?

Thank you for any insight!
ChumpChange
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September 14th, 2020 at 9:30:53 PM permalink
My local casino rules are like the defaults, but I'm not in Vegas where the scourge of 6:5 BJ payouts rules. A card counter says his advantage is from BJ's, so casinos responded by killing the game.
TinMan
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September 14th, 2020 at 9:41:58 PM permalink
What I typically see in AC is H17, DOA, NoRSA, No surrender, 6-8 decks (fwiw, mix of hand shuffle and CSM), DAS. I think high limit rooms more likely to have S17.
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charliepatrick
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September 15th, 2020 at 3:18:26 AM permalink
In the UK nearly all tables are 3:2, S17 DOA DDAS RSA ENHC, no surrender, insurance only if you have BJ. Depending on the casino it's CSMs or shoes. (In the old days they all had to play using the legal rules, but now those rules been relaxed.)
Gandler
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September 15th, 2020 at 4:13:22 PM permalink
Quote: TinMan

What I typically see in AC is H17, DOA, NoRSA, No surrender, 6-8 decks (fwiw, mix of hand shuffle and CSM), DAS. I think high limit rooms more likely to have S17.



I haven't been to a AC casino properly since pre-covid.

But, that is close to my experience with the exception of S17 (green chip tables tended to be the cutoff for where S17 occurs, many 25 minimum often had S17).
Surrender is pretty much a no go in AC (except for one or two high limit rooms I believe, I think Golden Nugget was one).

Things may have got tighter with covid (less players per table), so maybe they are scaling up the rules/limits now (just my speculation, so things may be way different with covid restricting occupancy in the casino and at each table)?
TinMan
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September 15th, 2020 at 4:30:15 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

I haven't been to a AC casino properly since pre-covid.

But, that is close to my experience with the exception of S17 (green chip tables tended to be the cutoff for where S17 occurs, many 25 minimum often had S17).
Surrender is pretty much a no go in AC (except for one or two high limit rooms I believe, I think Golden Nugget was one).

Things may have got tighter with covid (less players per table), so maybe they are scaling up the rules/limits now (just my speculation, so things may be way different with covid restricting occupancy in the casino and at each table)?



That is good to know that S17 exists at some $25 tables. I assumed it was limited to $50/$100 tables. Iím generally betting no more than $5 or $10. I havenít bet green chips at BJ since I was in my early 20s and Ballys (of all places) was packed every weekend and you couldnít find a table under $25.
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LAD
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September 16th, 2020 at 10:29:45 AM permalink
Haven't been to AC since closure.
However, just before shutdown, Ocean casino had surrender on ALL tables. Also allowed splitting up to three times.

Anybody been there who can confirm these rules still exist ?
Gandler
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September 16th, 2020 at 3:17:32 PM permalink
Quote: LAD

Haven't been to AC since closure.
However, just before shutdown, Ocean casino had surrender on ALL tables. Also allowed splitting up to three times.

Anybody been there who can confirm these rules still exist ?



I have actually not been to Ocean since it opened, but that sounds like amazing rules with S17 and surrender on any limit.
Hopefully covid did not change that.
LAD
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September 17th, 2020 at 10:18:40 AM permalink
HI Gandler

I actually didn't say that all tables had S17. If I remember correctly S17 was only on $25 tables ( in the back near the HL room) tables in the HL room.

However as I previously stated LS and splitting up to three times was permitted at all tables.

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