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July 31st, 2020 at 2:58:58 AM permalink
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My response is "It's a sucker bet."

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July 31st, 2020 at 4:04:31 AM permalink
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I like to play blackjack at local casinos in the Chicagoland area where I live.

Roughly 90% of the other players I play with bet on all of the available side bets every hand (always hoping for that next big hit).

Having watched all of Mike's videos about blackjack, I have accepted his advice on this topic, and I never make these bets myself.

I also tend to refrain from commenting on how others play their hands at the table. However, every time I get a potentially winning side bet hand, I almost always get heckled by some other player (sometimes the dealer) about this with comments such as "Oh you don't play them" "You are getting so many of those hands but you don't play" "Why didn't you play" "You don't play" etc.

What should I say in response to these comments (if anything) from an etiquette standpoint?



Just tell them itís your money and if they want to pay for you to make the bets, then youíre more than happy to play them.
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July 31st, 2020 at 4:58:38 AM permalink
The same question comes up at casinos with craps. And I dont mean just craps games with Bonus Craps aka Small, Tall, All.

Stickmen will often say things like "point is five, bet the 9," or "six came soft bet it hard."

The casinos know every bet on the table favors them.

Just say nothing. Pretend you didnt even hear the pitch from the dealer.
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July 31st, 2020 at 5:09:49 AM permalink
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Stickmen will often say things like "six came soft bet it hard."


Or as one nephyte dealer when asked which way it had come relied "from that direction".

I often say "i dont speak English' or "its a sucker bet" but remember that sucker bets do slow the game down which means the house edge operates fewer times but comp rate stays the same.
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July 31st, 2020 at 5:41:58 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My response is "It's a sucker bet."

Often I'll get a reply like, "But, you would have just won $x if you played it the last hand." My reply to that would be along the lines of "One hand doesn't prove anything. Nobody notices the many times it loses."



"It's a sucker bet" This was actually my response the last time I played blackjack!

I received a reply from that player along the lines of "It's not a sucker bet when it wins".

At the time, I decided to not engage in conversation any further as I felt it would be pointless.

I proceeded to watch this person buy in for ~$300 twice at a $25 table and leave with nothing after about 20 mins of play.

This is the point when a small part of me felt bad about my response and decided to see what others might have to say.
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July 31st, 2020 at 5:47:09 AM permalink
I always state that the BJ bet is a better bet so I bet all my money there.
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July 31st, 2020 at 5:47:37 AM permalink
I frequently watch one of the YouTube channels where an attractive gal plays blackjack (I'm sure you know who I'm talking about) and I'm amazed at how much she loses on these side bets at the El Cortez.

You can watch for yourself to see for yourself.
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July 31st, 2020 at 5:48:25 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The same question comes up at casinos with craps. And I dont mean just craps games with Bonus Craps aka Small, Tall, All.

Stickmen will often say things like "point is five, bet the 9," or "six came soft bet it hard."

The casinos know every bet on the table favors them.

Just say nothing. Pretend you didnt even hear the pitch from the dealer.



You make a very good point about the dealers.

However, I can't recall a time where someone actually commented directly on my play at the craps table.

This only seems to happen for me at the blackjack table as well as other card-based table games I play (3 card, UTH, etc.)
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July 31st, 2020 at 5:55:15 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I frequently watch one of the YouTube channels where an attractive gal plays blackjack (I'm sure you know who I'm talking about) and I'm amazed at how much she loses on these side bets at the El Cortez.

You can watch for yourself to see for yourself.



You must be referring to the slot lady!

Actually I watch her videos on a regular basis and I couldn't agree with you more.

I find her content to be quite entertaining but wow she does put out a lot of money onto those side bets!

In her specific case, she might be able to claim that "Side bets are part of the entertainment experience" since she claims providing YouTube content is her full-time job.

However, I have a feeling that is not why she is making those bets.
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July 31st, 2020 at 6:03:37 AM permalink
Thanks everyone for the great responses so far!

I definitely feel like there are plenty of good ones to use now just from this thread alone.

I appreciate it!

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