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June 15th, 2019 at 5:24:02 AM permalink
Inside the the Edge is a very recent documentary that follows a professional blackjack player as he travels the country in an RV playing at every casino with the game along the way. Along the way, experts, including yours truly *ahem* explain the math, terminology, and legal issues in greater depth. Here is the trailer:



I watched it on iTunes and am waiting for the DVD from Amazon.

I've ranted that card counting seems to be always depicted as an easy way to make a windfall of money in the movies and television. Rain Man and 21 come immediately to mind. Inside the Edge is the non-fictional work that actually shows what it's like. I must admit I've been saying that card counting is dead or nearly-dead and this movie proves me wrong. However, it does show KC, the main character, getting 86'd and trespassed right and left, and sometimes worse.

The lineup of experts giving commentary is outstanding, if I may toot my own horn. Many of the big names, including James Grosjean, are in it.

BTW, this is not my first movie. I play a similar roll, but talking about slots, in Ka-ching -- Pokie Nation, another great movie.

The question for the poll is what is your review of Inside the Edge?

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June 15th, 2019 at 10:01:29 AM permalink
I just purchased it from Amazon prime streaming for $8. Not bad.

Will watch tonight.

Looks like hidden cameras used for casinos interior.

One of the things that annoyed me about the Christian Blackjack team doc was they seemed to have pro cameras following them around inside the casinos.

I mean, if the casino sees a camera man following you around??? That and other things about that doc made me highly suspect it was staged.

This one appears more real.

Thoughts after I watch. Thx
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June 15th, 2019 at 10:21:31 AM permalink
He didn’t go to EVERY casino along the path. His friend is filming. There’s also at least a couple casinos he’s going into mainly for the purpose of getting trespassed/the footage, he otherwise would have known better as an experienced networked player (the one where he’s getting harassed by cops, for sure he knew that wasn’t going to be pleasant and he wasn’t getting much EV before entering). It was good overall, a bit short.
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June 15th, 2019 at 11:24:56 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

He didn’t go to EVERY casino along the path. His friend is filming. There’s also at least a couple casinos he’s going into mainly for the purpose of getting trespassed/the footage, he otherwise would have known better as an experienced networked player (the one where he’s getting harassed by cops, for sure he knew that wasn’t going to be pleasant and he wasn’t getting much EV before entering). It was good overall, a bit short.



From remarks made and style of play, it seemed KC (is that right?) wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and do something else with his life afterward.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall him explaining who was doing the secret recording. At various times in the movie he complained about being lonely. I wondered why the secret cameraman didn't keep him company between sessions.
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June 15th, 2019 at 12:13:00 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

From remarks made and style of play, it seemed KC (is that right?) wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and do something else with his life afterward.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall him explaining who was doing the secret recording. At various times in the movie he complained about being lonely. I wondered why the secret cameraman didn't keep him company between sessions.



Quotes below from a chat on Norms site in 2012 (this film has been supposedly coming out for a long time now.) It sort of seemed like he was solo some of the time I agree.

“I was always scared for my partner Chris, who carried and wore the cameras.”

“I decided to go out on a limb and travel the entire country as the last chapter of my career. My friend and filmmaker, Chris Buddy, thought it would make an excellent cinematic experience so I let him tag along and document the whole trip.”

The film shows a surveillance flyer of Chris when he’s talking about casinos overreacting.
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June 15th, 2019 at 12:32:50 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Quotes below from a chat on Norms site in 2012 (this film has been supposedly coming out for a long time now.)



Thanks for the comments. You can tell the film was in progress for a long time by the color of my hair. It was only about 10% grey at the time of my scenes. Now it's 90%.
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June 15th, 2019 at 12:39:23 PM permalink
I was a little disappointed in it. I guess I was hoping to see more footage of him actually playing in the casinos. I'm not sure that I learned anything new either.

I want my $5 back.
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June 15th, 2019 at 1:19:45 PM permalink
I have never believed in that oxygen myth but I'm sure it will never die.

As to card counting, I've generally accepted the "hard way to make an easy living" theory and the observation that those who have the bank roll usually have the skills to make far more money doing something else.

Yet it has always puzzled me as to why casinos hire zillions of sharp eyed floor men to guard against a myth.
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June 15th, 2019 at 1:29:06 PM permalink
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Thanks for the comments. You can tell the film was in progress for a long time by the color of my hair. It was only about 10% grey at the time of my scenes. Now it's 90%.



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June 15th, 2019 at 2:18:38 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

As to card counting, I've generally accepted the "hard way to make an easy living" theory and the observation that those who have the bank roll usually have the skills to make far more money doing something else.



I really enjoy reading posts by the APrs here but I can't see myself getting into it unless something just fell in my lap (highly unlikely). All that work and research involved. It's certainly not a lifestyle for most people. I'm always reminded of that scene in the film "The Sting" ....

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Johnny Hooker: How many guys you conned in your life, Henry?

Henry Gondorff: I don't know, 200, 300. Sometimes we played two a day when I was with O'Shea's mob. Of course, Chicago was a rigged town. The fix was in. The dicks took their end without a beef. We had it down to a business. And it really stunk, kid. No sense in being a grifter if it's the same thing as being a citizen.

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