FINAL Shout out

This one is to the corrupt Palms. I want anyone to try and give me a rational explanation to what Im about to describe here about what happened tonght. I already called the Gaming Control Board and the agent was left speechless and had no explanation, what a coincidence. So here it goes.

So I just found out the Palms has randomly changed out their cards. So im thinking ok no biggie, strange, but no biggie really. Then I found out the Palms now has the shoe games coming PRESHUFFLED with NO ASM on either of the tables. Are you kididng me? Before they changed the cards, they came in ORDEr and paid out in front of everyone to see. So who the hell is checking these cards now. Does no one see a problem with this PROTOCOL? Holy jesus, is everyone braindead? At least before when I brought this subject up, the tables had a state inspected ASM to check the cards. Planet Hollywood also is doing this now the last time I was there and never played there again. It seems the cheating is masisvely spreading across town. They know they cannot trespass you so this is the result.

Someone please go ahead and tell me what safeguards are in place with preshuffled cards AND NO ASM to green or red light a pack to see if its perfect or missing a card? They literally open the pack from wherever the hell they get them, probably Japan for all I know now and then what? Just check for marks and ready to go? Not one person in the casino checks it. Absolutely laughable. Go ahead, someone try and tell me what kind of transparency there is now? The Gaming Commission is sending out an agent today or whenever they wouldnt give me a date. Probably will never show up. Palms, if you're reading this, you're finished.

I dont give a rats ass about winning or losing. This isnt about that. As long as its a fair game, every casino in this town is at my mercy and theres nothing any of them can do about it because theyll never get rid of me. Please, any casino reading this, please arrest me for a criminal trespass next time im in there. It will be the worst decision you will ever make. Their only chance is to cheat me. Maybe they have read my trespassing thread and wised up and started cheating. Who really knows.

I lost 5 straight shoes tonight, starting at the Rio and ending at the Palms. That NEVER happens, I honestly cannot remember the last time I lost 5 straight backcounting shoes. Losing 4 happens once in a blue moon, but NEVER 5. Sure, short term anything can happen, but its something ive noticed throughout my career.

So final shout out to warn everyone in this city that goes to the Palms. Once again, transparency is dead. Every single drone pit boss in there giving me no explanation to my questions should be fired immediately. Youre a disgrace to society, keep collecting your pathetic paycheck and being a braindead droned out scum human being.

If I were catholic I would pray for you.

So they are hand shuffling unverified decks?
And the decks come pre shuffled?

P.S.- I really like the "at your mercy" line. Fertitta's are supposedly mobsters after all.

Quote: MaxPen

So they are hand shuffling unverified decks?
And the decks come pre shuffled?

P.S.- I really like the "at your mercy" line. Fertitta's are supposedly mobsters after all.

Yes. Can you believe that? Go verify it for yourself. I first seen this at Planet Hollywood months ago and now its spreading. Unverified no asm hand shuffled preshuffled decks. Of course the casino verified it in the back to make sure its a short pack, but in terms of transparency to the customer, yup unverified. Just think critically for a second. Why else woukd they change out their cards? Add to that the fact that the protocol before this was that the cards came in order and now the NEW cards are preshuffled AND no ASM? Lets be honest here.

I would be wondering if perhaps all the pre-shuffled cards come in the same order.

Everybody has been using pre-shuffled cards in high-limit baccarat, where players can touch and bend the cards, for years. It is a big time saver. I, personally, have no problem with them doing this in blackjack.

Quote: ZenKinG

Please, any casino reading this, please arrest me for a criminal trespass next time im in there.

Do you wear a 'I'm Zenking' T-shirt?

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Their only chance is to cheat me. Maybe they have read my trespassing thread and wised up and started cheating.

Me. Me Me. Do you think the casinos decide their busness model just to stymie you, you, you?

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Losing 4 happens once in a blue moon, but NEVER 5.

Where have I heard that before? Maybe you should have doubled your stakes for shoe 6, because 6 NEVER EVER HAPPENS

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Once again, transparency is dead.

Don't get me wrong: I think transparency is important to engender trust. They MIGHT be cheating and do themselves no favors by not being open to scrutiny.

Now...
A. Do you believe they are cheating?
B. Will you ever play there again?

If ((A=='Yes' && B=='No') !! (A=='No')) then WhoCares() else WhatKindOfFoolDAreYou();

Quote: ZenKinG

Palms, if you're reading this, you're finished.

Haha... I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.

Quote: AxelWolf

I would be wondering if perhaps all the pre-shuffled cards come in the same order.

He don't give a mouse's tail about winning or losing. He's a man on a mission.

Bulls players faking injuries , the Palms changing out their cards.

Vegas is on a full blown mission to crush you.

I’m gonna blame it on the $12k you’ve raked in over just a year and a half out there. You don’t haul in that kinda cash and expect to just fly under the radar.

Quote: michael99000

I’m gonna blame it on the $12k you’ve raked in over just a year and a half out there.

Only $12K?

"Final Shout Out"


That reminds me of my Dad saying. 'Stop that: I won't tell you again' and me thinking 'Thank **** for that, I was getting fed up of hearing it'

Quote: OnceDear

That reminds me of my Dad saying. 'Stop that: I won't tell you again' and me thinking 'Thank **** for that, I was getting fed up of hearing it'

My mother used to say, after telling me to do something once, "I'm not going to remind you again." This was incorrect, because she never reminded me a first time. However, if I corrected her English I would have really made her mad.

Quote: Wizard

Everybody has been using pre-shuffled cards in high-limit baccarat, where players can touch and bend the cards, for years. It is a big time saver. I, personally, have no problem with them doing this in blackjack.

So you have no problem with them NOT verifying the pre shuffled cards before opening a table? Is this really the point we have reached in the industry? Whats next? Where does it end? How the hell can I be the only one asking questions and everyone is so aloof to all of this? Whether cheating or not, how is everyone so unbothered by this? People have way too much faith in this industry. We all know how irrational the people who work for these casinos actually are, so why wouldnt you put it past them to short the deck after all the movies and documentaries on this game being able to be beaten?

You literally have a casino that has recently changed their cards for no reason and now use different cards, why? When was the last time a casino did this? And then you learn they changed their protocol from cards coming in order to now pre shuffled. You then learn, not only is it pre shuffled, but there is no ASM to verify every card is in there when they open the pack of mixed cards. Seriously?

Listen, Im sick of bringing up this subject as much as the next person is sick of hearing it. The difference now is there is NO ASM to verify the pre shuffled cards integrity. Someone please tell me what safeguards are in place when something like this occurs? Do they take the pre shuffled pack and put it in an ASM located somewhere else, then release it to each table?

Quote: Wizard

My mother used to say, after telling me to do something once, "I'm not going to remind you again." This was incorrect, because she never reminded me a first time. However, if I corrected her English I would have really made her mad.

Looking back at when I was a kid, parents said stupid nonsensical things all the time, but like you said, you can't call them out on it because it just makes them madder.

"I'll give you something to cry about!"

I've already GOT something to cry about.... THAT'S WHY I'M CRYING RIGHT NOW. You want to give me something ELSE to cry about to make the situation worse??

My favorite was when my sister was chasing me for some reason and I would implore my parents to make her stop, and I would get the inevitable:

"Well, stop running and she can't chase you."

Then I will be caught, which is the exact scenario I'm trying to avoid, hence the reason I AM RUNNING AWAY FROM HER. That's like saying you can prevent being mugged by just giving all your money to the thief, so therefore he's technically not stealing from you.

Quote: ZenKinG

People have way too much faith in this industry.

Why don't you get a job in the industry and start fixing the problems?

Better yet, take the job and pass us the inside information.

Quote: TigerWu

Why don't you get a job in the industry and start fixing the problems?

That's a really good point.

Since casino employees are generally in on these massive criminal conspiracies, it won't take long to document the cheating. Then ZK can go Serpico.

Plus, and correct me if I'm wrong, I would think that he would collect a nice fee for bringing the gazillion dollar class action suit to a lawyer.

My Mom is a bit crazy. She was always saying wacky stuff. She always tried to use the fear of God when she was no longer able to "beat my ass"(shout out to Kentry/..,NVM ) "God is going to punish you!", was her favorite thing to say.

Don't you love it when parents say, "Don't make me get off this couch"

Now back to our regularly scheduled ZK conspiracy theories.

My Moms go to phrase was a variation of ' Wait until your Father gets home" or " "I think your Father might be interested in this" or about a hundred variations of it.
Didn't matter if Dad was two miles away at HQ or 5,000 miles away in a jungle, it had the desired effect.

Quote: Rigondeaux

Since casino employees are generally in on these massive criminal conspiracies.

Changing to pre-shuffled cards is a plot that doesn’t trickle down below upper management.

Quote: Rigondeaux

Plus, and correct me if I'm wrong, I would think that he would collect a nice fee for bringing the gazillion dollar class action suit to a lawyer.

At the very least he would have a job that earned more than $12k in a year and a half.

Quote: TigerWu

At the very least he would have a job that earned more than $12k in a year and a half.

But it's a dry 12K.

Well, I was really hoping to win the mega millions. I really wanted to have ZenKing run a casino for me. I still have 1 Powerball shot tonight. 😀

Quote: michael99000

Changing to pre-shuffled cards is a plot that doesn’t trickle down below upper management.

I don't really know, in this case. Who is setting the decks though?

Couldn't a dealer document any irregularities?

ZK, you make good arguments about the casino (employees) being irrational, this is the perfect setup for cheating, practically no oversight, etc. etc.

The part where you lose people's interest, at least mine, is when you start saying that they are cheating or you bring up your losses.

Quote: Wizard

My mother used to say, after telling me to do something once, "I'm not going to remind you again." This was incorrect, because she never reminded me a first time. However, if I corrected her English I would have really made her mad.

It depends. If what she told you was necessary for you to do or not to do. It could be deemed a reminder. But if it wasn't necessary, then you're correct.

Quote: Rigondeaux

I don't really know, in this case. Who is setting the decks though?

Couldn't a dealer document any irregularities?

Im sure some novice dealers see the pre-shuffled cards and go right to the police.

But as you know , snitches get stitches

Quote: michael99000

Im sure some novice dealers see the pre-shuffled cards and go right to the police.

But as you know , snitches get stitches

What do you think the owner of the Venetian would pay for proof his competition is cheating? Fifty million? More?

Quote: billryan

What do you think the owner of the Venetian would pay for proof his competition is cheating? Fifty million? More?

Hey, now, don't tempt me to go get a job in Vegas just so I can root out corruption... I've already lost two whole dollars playing the lottery this week....

A business (Palms) that is not a monopoly has a business practice that you do not like (preshuffled not inspected cards). You are aware of this business practice. Bring your business to a competitor. If enough other people are like minded and they lose enough business they will likely change their business practice. I think less than 1% of players will care in a negative way. I think, actually, the time savings of not having to watch a dealer look at every frikkin card then do a super wash and mix will be a net positive for the casino in terms of patrons LIKING the business practice.

I do not disagree with you that from a pure transparency perspective you are correct. I do not think patrons, with rare exceptions (eg., Zenking), give a f... about said transparency.

At least ZK doesn't claim we all work for the casino industry.

At least ZK doesn't realise we all work for the casino industry. $:o)

Is this an official final shout out or just a normal one?

This makes me realize I should give up live keno. They never show me that all 80 balls are in play.

you think this is bad? at my local casino, they don't even give print-outs of the source code for the slot machines!

And yet im still waiting for the safeguards in place for this suspicous practice being done at the Palms and not ONE person here has yet been able to tell me, but rather go into meaningless drivel. Not even the Gaming Commission has told me yet. For all I know the GCB is probably in on it and maybe it's all legal and there's a statute somewhere thqt makes it vague enough for them to cheat. So again i will ask, who the HELL is inspecting these cards then if it comes pre shuffled. This isnt a joke. Im dead serious. Im sick of bringing up this subject and now it just got worse, not even an ASM to check/verify the cards.

We literally got some pre shuffled pack straight from god knows where, maybe Cambodia for all i freaking know. The casino then receives the cards and immediately puts it into play after checking for marks without any VERIFICATION? Well that would be naive of me right, because upper management wouldnt allow the cards to enter play without first making sure they have an edge and that all the cards are in there. But that's the problem, is this procedure in the back being surveilled upon? Or is upper management looking over the cards UNSUPERVISED? Where the hell is the transparency for the customer and the Gaming Commission to inspect these cards? Is surveillance watching or even care? What are the safeguards in place?

Dont forget to add in the fact that all the cards were recently changed to a different design type of card and now instead of coming in order, they come pre shuffled. Why the sudden change? If this was for increasing speed, why did they get rid of the ASMs? You see the problem here? It doesnt add up. Then again no one is able to think this critically anymore. Just a bunch of zombies getting raped by this industry. Even if it was a legit game, if more people were like me, pre shuffled cards wouldnt exist.

Regarding no one 'caring' about the procedure in place, of course no one cares? They're a droned out robot. You could throw a pong pong ball at their head and theyll just stare back at you with a smile while their money gets vaccummed up, lose 1k and ask if they played long enough for a comp. It's like im fighting every single battle alone in this world. Like no one gives a damn about anything. Even if it wasnt a grand plot to cheat us, just look at what happened at SugarHouse recently, cards were missing whether by accident or a cover up story to limit the bad publicity after they were caught. Well with pre shuffled cards and NO ASM to verify every card is in there, you dont think now the chance of that happening is magnified? But yet everyone turns a blind eye?

You people dont realize the anger these pit bosses give me when they give me their stupid droned out blank stare with their response of 'Sir, if you think we're cheating you, dont play" Are you kidding me? Im the customer, without any of us, you dont make money, you DRONED out immoral IDIOT. Not only do these floormen and pit bosses not give me a rational response or explanation for their suspicious practices or even question it themselves, they then have the audacity to tell me something along those lines? Hey idiots, customer Service 101, the customer is always right and yet they feel like they can just go say to play somewhere else?

Quote: RS

ZK, you make good arguments about the casino (employees) being irrational, this is the perfect setup for cheating, practically no oversight, etc. etc.

The part where you lose people's interest, at least mine, is when you start saying that they are cheating or you bring up your losses.

Just like SugarHouse would never cheat or have missing cards right. Just like Soaring Eagle would never cheat either. Just like when Ken Uston said there was a major casino on the strip shorting shoes, right? As well as many others. If history shows me to be cautious, the last thing Im going to do is give the benefit of the doubt to this immoral, irrational, and corrupt industry.

Also when did I bring up my losses as a reason to why I think they're cheating. I never brought it up to defend my cheating claims. I even said this ISNT ABOUT any losses or winnings. I dont give a damn about losses in the short run if I know its a legit game. Problem is you never know anymore because the transparency is gone and no one seems to care, not even the GCB.

Quote: ZenKinG

Just like SugarHouse would never cheat or have missing cards right. Just like Soaring Eagle would never cheat either. Just like when Ken Uston said there was a major casino on the strip shorting shoes, right? As well as many others. If history shows me to be cautious, the last thing Im going to do is give the benefit of the doubt to this immoral, irrational, and corrupt industry.

Also when did I bring up my losses as a reason to why I think they're cheating. I never brought it up to defend my cheating claims. I even said this ISNT ABOUT any losses or winnings. I dont give a damn about losses in the short run if I know its a legit game. Problem is you never know anymore because the transparency is gone and no one seems to care, not even the GCB.

Because you said you lost 6 straight sessions from Rio to Palms. If it has nothing to do with it, don’t bring it up. It just weakens your position, whether you mean to relate the two or not.

Quote: RS

Because you said you lost 6 straight sessions from Rio to Palms. If it has nothing to do with it, don’t bring it up. It just weakens your position, whether you mean to relate the two or not.

I see what you're saying, but that still shouldn't distract anyone from answering my original question? What safeguards are in place when there is NO ASM at the tables and the cards come pre shuffled? How can the customer have any sense of trust that all the cards are in there?

Im waiting. And it looks like I'll be waiting for a long time because there is no answer. And there's no answer because the game is gaffed at the palms as well as the time when I went to planet hollywood. Just put together all of the information starting with the Palms randomly changing out their cards to some weird looking cards when there was no reason to. Then combine the fact that these new cards coincidentally come pre shuffled. Then combine all of that with the fact that there are NO ASMS on these tables either. What would anyone's rational conclusion be assuming they're not braindead like 99% of the public?

It’s innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent. The burden of proof is on you not them.

The reason nobody takes you seriously is because you think the billion dollar sports leagues, the casinos, the government and the leprechauns are all out to get you. Be careful those leprechauns shouldn’t be trusted!

When in reality you don’t make any money because you refuse to network (learn better, more profitable AP) and you are unable to put in an even mildly respectable number of hours counting blackjack.

Quote: PokerGrinder

It’s innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent. The burden of proof is on you not them.

The reason nobody takes you seriously is because you think the billion dollar sports leagues, the casinos, the government and the leprechauns are all out to get you. Be careful those leprechauns shouldn’t be trusted!

When in reality you don’t make any money because you refuse to network (learn better, more profitable AP) and you are unable to put in an even mildly respectable number of hours counting blackjack.

How can anyone prove anything if no one ever gets to see the cards? The Gaming Commission wont even let me know what their findings are because it's all confidential. You actually think this corrupt agent is going to be sent out there? Have you or anyone ever seen an agent come to the tables and inspect the cards? It's all a bluff. The enforcement agencies are in the same bed as the casinos as well as the courts. It's all an illusion of enforcement. This whole country has been sold out for a dollar. This world is a piece of shit.

Im so glad money means so much to all of you. Everyone is chasing a piece of paper that has no value whatsoever. That's when you know this society is a bunch of braindead drones. No one values time, you know the only thing we ALL run out of. They value a piece of paper and when they're on their death beds looking back at the stacks of cash next to them, they go under the ground never to be seen again. What a way to live your lives. The jokes on all of these corrupt and immoral judges, businesses, government agencies, etc. They think they're winning, but they're losing the most important battle of all. LIFE. They live miserable unfulfilling lives with no one who truly loves them, which is why the way they are to begin with. Money is their only 'friend', but actually it's just another one of their 'enemies'.

That's why Im once again a step ahead of everyone. I figured out at a young age it's all bullshit while 99% of society only figure it out when they're sitting at the beach for the 10th time in 2 weeks realizing it's all a scam. Society has brainwashed all of you. You even have like I said people selling their souls for a dollar just to get ahead. Not to mention, just look at everyone around you, working 40 years as a slave in an office building doing something they hate just to get to their illustrious retirement they have been sold on by society that leads to happiness. Happiness doesn't come from having a big enough bank account to retire on. Which is why when everyone retires, they're left unbelievably bored and unfulfilled wondering what exactly went wrong and why they're feeling the way they're feeling. They worked so hard for this moment, meanwhile they're truly sad inside. Maybe they should've enjoyed the time with their family and friends more and lived a life with integrity.

Happiness and true fulfillment comes from inside. The relationships you built, spending precious time with the people who love you while they're still alive, the integrity you based your life on never screwing someone over, and the valuable time you used to do something you truly enjoy and not caring what people and society think of you. That's what life is about. The memories you created. That's the only thing you can take to the grave with as one lies in their death bed. No wonder suicide rates are through the roof and most marriages end in divorce. Because everyone is a braindead droned out societal robot. Everyone is worried about getting the big mansion, the big car, sold on the "American dream', sold on the illusion that this will make you truly happy, meanwhile ignoring the most important values in their lives. They don't realize once you start treading down that road, the finish line never ends. Once you start trying to compare yourself to other people and care about they think of you, you've lost all control. You will never be satisfied. Just look at all these millionaires and billionaires still trying to make money. It's absolutely pathetic.

I've lost all faith in this world around me, which is why I now just live day to day and don't care what happens to me. I can't do it all myself so I've just given up. The economy is destroyed, corruption is at all time highs, morals and values are gone, suicide rates are through the roof, and this is all because of like I said, MONEY whether it be directly or indirectly. Everyone is so emotionally invested with money. It controls every aspect of their lives. Money has destroyed everything. The funny thing is, it's not even real money and has no tangible value, which just adds to the laughter about how everyone has been hoodwinked. Next time you're on the highway at 5am trying to get to work, just look all around you at where everyone has gone wrong. Everyone rushing to get to work while their precious lives are rinsed away. Some are so caught up in achieving the financial dream, they ignore their kids and wives and some dont even get to see their kids grow up.

Of course let me say this, I'm not saying people don't need to work, or else we'd all be screwed and the world would stop spinning. Jobs are vital to a healthy society whether you work for yourself or for someone else. They're both noble. The point is not that, but how the majority of people put more value into achieving financial success regardless of how they do it or what they do, emotionally and physically, rather than what truly matters. This is why everything has gone down the drain. On the simple illusion that financial freedom brings true happiness.

A perfect example of all of this is take a look at the NBA and Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant sold out his career to get as many championships as he could because he cares so much about what people think of him. He was one of the best players in the league and decided to jump shit and join the best team in the league who had just won 73 games, the most all time by an NBA team. He now will probably end with as many championships as Jordan if not more. The funny thing is, the joke is on him. Taking the easy way out, you will never get that true gratitude from within. The ones who stuck with their team and grinded out to their first and only championship after 10+ years such as Dirk Nowitzki with the Dallas Mavericks results in much more happiness and gratitude than 500 championships taking the easy way out ever will. It's like people don't understand where true happiness lies in. Go compare Kevin Durant's facial expression after winning the championship and compare that to Dirk Nowitzki or Michael Jordan's first championship. It's night and day. Congrats KD, you're just another brainwashed sheep caring what people think of you.

Whenever you say people are speechless or dumbfounded after you talk to them, I'm pretty sure it's with you and not with your consperiecy theories being accurate.

We in the business come across people just like you all the time. You wouldn't believe how many ridiculous things I hear. The shufflers are rigged, surveillance is part of the scam, State regulators are paid off, be it modes, all the good cards are behind the cut card, dealers make mistakes on purpose for the house, you must be lying if I cant see the video review myself, you change the cards on this game because I'm winning, etc, etc, etc.

Casinos change card brands all the time. They usually have a 1 or 2 year contract and take bids for pricing when the contract expires. Sometimes the design on the back changes, sometimes it doesn't.

Many casinos use pre-shuffled decks now. I e been opening and checking un-shuffled decks now for 12 years. I've never come across a missing or extra card. Mis-cut yes, a card out of order yes, but never a missing or extra card. Now, I'm not saying it's not possible or that's it's never happened anywhere, but the chances are probably less than the chances of hitting the lottery.

In all you time in Las Vegas and all your complaints, how much have you been able to change what is happening?

For being the greatest player in the world, how much are you up on Las Vegas? If I recall it's very small or negative.

How's life feel? Bed bugs, frustration, complaints, nobody listens to you, 2 weeks in a hospital and your flat broke. You might want to reconsider your choices.


ZCore13

I'm sure if you ask nicely your folks will let you have your old room back.

Heck, three squares, a not shower and a place to live for free: must look pretty good right now.

Quote: ZenKinG

I see what you're saying, but that still shouldn't distract anyone from answering my original question? What safeguards are in place when there is NO ASM at the tables and the cards come pre shuffled? How can the customer have any sense of trust that all the cards are in there?

Im waiting. And it looks like I'll be waiting for a long time because there is no answer. And there's no answer because the game is gaffed at the palms as well as the time when I went to planet hollywood. Just put together all of the information starting with the Palms randomly changing out their cards to some weird looking cards when there was no reason to. Then combine the fact that these new cards coincidentally come pre shuffled. Then combine all of that with the fact that there are NO ASMS on these tables either. What would anyone's rational conclusion be assuming they're not braindead like 99% of the public?

I didn't realize you had so much faith in those ASM's. Those things are gaffed too. What kind of droned out blind faith is supporting the use of such a device?

ZK,
Why do you go into casinos and play BlackJack? Seriously?
Is it to take money from the casinos to sustain your life. buy food and shelter etc?
But isn't money just part of the wrongs in this world?

Is it maybe to right some wrong and to 'stick it to the corrupt corporations' Are you doing a noble act for your fellow man in some way?

Do you enjoy it?

Don't misunderstand me: I realise that fiat money is an illusion built on sand but it is what it is and I'm not clever enough to get it universally replaced by barter or whatever.
And i realise that some corporations are corrupt.

I was a wage slave (drone) , doing a few droned out jobs that I enjoyed. The benefits served me well and I enjoy my retirement. It brought me wealth, valuable social interactions, value. Does that make me the bigger fool.

Your rants seem to indicate that your casino life doesn't bring you joy, or indeed much of that god-awful filthy money stuff. Does it bring you friends and social intercourse? The joy of family life? A sense of purpose, fulfilled?

Maybe consider something more fulfilling? Set up or work at a food bank, soup kitchen or animal sanctuary. You might enjoy contributing to society in that way?

Or maybe become a writer or journalist. You are eloquent enough and have strong opinions and a story to tell.

Maybe not president or king of the world. Please, not that.

I'm sure the casino cashiers think $100 bills are worthless because they don't get any.

Quote: Zcore13

Whenever you say people are speechless or dumbfounded after you talk to them, I'm pretty sure it's with you and not with your consperiecy theories being accurate.

We in the business come across people just like you all the time. You wouldn't believe how many ridiculous things I hear. The shufflers are rigged, surveillance is part of the scam, State regulators are paid off, be it modes, all the good cards are behind the cut card, dealers make mistakes on purpose for the house, you must be lying if I cant see the video review myself, you change the cards on this game because I'm winning, etc, etc, etc.

Casinos change card brands all the time. They usually have a 1 or 2 year contract and take bids for pricing when the contract expires. Sometimes the design on the back changes, sometimes it doesn't.

Many casinos use pre-shuffled decks now. I e been opening and checking un-shuffled decks now for 12 years. I've never come across a missing or extra card. Mis-cut yes, a card out of order yes, but never a missing or extra card. Now, I'm not saying it's not possible or that's it's never happened anywhere, but the chances are probably less than the chances of hitting the lottery.

In all you time in Las Vegas and all your complaints, how much have you been able to change what is happening?

For being the greatest player in the world, how much are you up on Las Vegas? If I recall it's very small or negative.

How's life feel? Bed bugs, frustration, complaints, nobody listens to you, 2 weeks in a hospital and your flat broke. You might want to reconsider your choices.


ZCore13

Ypu come across people like me, but have you ever come across someone like me that isnt a degenerate and has made close to 60k profit part time from blackjack betting 2x200 on average?

But let's not digress, you guys see what Zcore did here? He goes and comments about unshuffled decks and how he did that for 12 years when my question wasnt about unshuffled decks, it was about PRE SHUFFLED decks. Also not one explanation for what Palms is doing. Zcore go ahead and tell me who is verifying these cards with NO ASM at the table and the cards coming pre shuffled? Be my guest. What safeguards are in place? Thats all I want to know.

FYI, im not in the negative and im up 16k in Vegas after 410 hours, so nice try. Flat broke? LOL. Yea i sure am flat broke with 50k and no debt without a handout from anyone and a car still worth about 7.5k that is paid off. But anyway, Zcore you hear that? It's your alarm clock. Your boss is calling you, better not be late. Hope you enjoy another slave shift. I also suggest you get your dictionary out next time. Maybe you can spell an elementary word such as 'conspiracy' next time.

Cheers.

Quote: ZenKinG

Ypu come across ... (snip)... Your boss is calling you, better not be late. Hope you enjoy another slave shift. I also suggest you get your dictionary out next time. Maybe you can spell an elementary word such as 'conspiracy' next time.

Cheers.

Quote: ZK excerpt from top of this page, bolding mine

Kevin Durant sold out his career to get as many championships as he could because he cares so much about what people think of him. He was one of the best players in the league and decided to jump shit and join the best team in the league who had just won 73 games, the most all time by an NBA team.

Pot, meet kettle. Ypu?

And do you really think the phrase is "jump shit" or are you so profane that's your spellchecker default?

It's a fool's pastime to make fun of misspellings.

Just wondering.

I happen to agree with you about pre-shuffled decks. Certainly seems questionable as to the randomness or oversight. But you harm your own argument with cheap shots at people who disagree with you.

I have a feeling that if a casino is ever going to learn a lesson about pre shuffled card decks, it won't be taught to them by someone who bets at my level or anywhere near it.

If you made $16,000 in a year and a half that is about $30 per day. Wow, your system really does work. I can't believe that I doubted you.