KevinAA
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July 1st, 2018 at 12:08:03 AM permalink
I stopped in Elko, NV and went to the Red Lion Casino. They have this weird rule that you have to signal "stand" if you draw to 21. How idiotic.

Another dumb rule is when you split, after you play one hand, you have to signal "hit" for the second hand in order to get a second card.

That plus the more serious bad rules of no DAS (and no surrender, of course) was enough for me to stop playing after 20 minutes. I played computer blackjack instead at $1/hand, which does have surrender, no one to tip, and the computer is smart enough to know that I would ALWAYS want to stand on 21.
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July 1st, 2018 at 12:30:45 AM permalink
Quote: KevinAA

I stopped in Elko, NV and went to the Red Lion Casino. They have this weird rule that you have to signal "stand" if you draw to 21. How idiotic.

Another dumb rule is when you split, after you play one hand, you have to signal "hit" for the second hand in order to get a second card.

That plus the more serious bad rules of no DAS (and no surrender, of course) was enough for me to stop playing after 20 minutes. I played computer blackjack instead at $1/hand, which does have surrender, no one to tip, and the computer is smart enough to know that I would ALWAYS want to stand on 21.

I assume that pays even money on BJ.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 1st, 2018 at 4:24:44 AM permalink
Sometimes people hit with 21. I've seen it before, it ain't pretty.
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July 1st, 2018 at 4:32:53 AM permalink
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Sometimes people hit with 21. I've seen it before, it ain't pretty.



I have said it before in another thread but there is one situation where hitting 21 is the correct play

If there is a charlie rule (5 card or 6 card charlie usually) and I have drawn 4 or 5 cards to an 11

Hitting guarantees a win on the charlie while standing still exposes you to a push

It has happened to me twice before although its a rare situation
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July 1st, 2018 at 7:39:05 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I assume that pays even money on BJ.



nope, 3:2 or I would have kept on walking
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July 2nd, 2018 at 9:55:52 AM permalink
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...Another dumb rule is when you split, after you play one hand, you have to signal "hit" for the second hand in order to get a second card....

I kind of want to stop and play this just so I can stand on ONE card and say that I've won a hand of BJ playing with only 1 card...
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 1:38:26 PM permalink
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I kind of want to stop and play this just so I can stand on ONE card and say that I've won a hand of BJ playing with only 1 card...



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July 2nd, 2018 at 1:42:11 PM permalink
Pretty sure it would be a dead hand. Dealer can't take his second card until players are set.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 1:43:03 PM permalink
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Pretty sure it would be a dead hand. Dealer can't take his second card until players are set.

I thought it seemed like you could Stand since they're requiring a signal? Say you got a ten... could you double with one card then Kevin? lol that would be something to remember too.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 3:37:38 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I kind of want to stop and play this just so I can stand on ONE card and say that I've won a hand of BJ playing with only 1 card...

Made me think of this. The 'action' starts at around 1:47. :)

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July 2nd, 2018 at 4:17:06 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Sometimes people hit with 21. I've seen it before, it ain't pretty.



Was alcohol involved ?

Worst move I’ve ever seen was someone double a hard 20 vs a dealer 4
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July 2nd, 2018 at 5:52:54 PM permalink
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I thought it seemed like you could Stand since they're requiring a signal? Say you got a ten... could you double with one card then Kevin? lol that would be something to remember too.

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July 2nd, 2018 at 6:46:43 PM permalink
Playing at a virtual BJ machine in Laughlin, guy at the table hit DD instead of split with two faces against a six. Drew an Ace. We were watching the Super bowl and he was from Nawlins and the Saints were leading so BJ was kind of secondary. He's distracted and again hits the wrong button. Again he draws an Ace. now he thinks he found a glitch in the machine so next pair of tens he gets he doubles down. And loses.
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July 2nd, 2018 at 8:52:44 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I thought it seemed like you could Stand since they're requiring a signal? Say you got a ten... could you double with one card then Kevin? lol that would be something to remember too.



We actually experimented with a game where you could double down on a first card Ten or Ace. The problem was figuring what to take away to keep the house advantage.
Anyone want to take a fun flyer on it?
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July 2nd, 2018 at 10:57:28 PM permalink
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nope, 3:2 or I would have kept on walking

What kind of machine lets you bet $1 and 3:2 with surrender.

Did you find an IGT with 3:2, or do the big EBJ machine allow $1 bets?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 2nd, 2018 at 10:57:29 PM permalink
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nope, 3:2 or I would have kept on walking

What kind of machine lets you bet $1 and 3:2 with surrender?

Did you find an IGT with 3:2, or does the big EBJ machine allow $1 bets?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
KevinAA
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July 2nd, 2018 at 11:50:47 PM permalink
The live game was $5 min, BJ 3:2, no DAS, no surrender, can hit on 21, and can apparently stand on one card in the 2nd split hand.

The computer game was at the casino across the street -- Gold Country Inn & Casino. It's the big one with 5 chairs and the screen of a hot chick dealer (not the "slot" machine version with horrible even money BJ). $1 min, BJ 3:2, DAS, surrender, and the computer is smart enough to not require you to stand on 21 and will automatically give you a 2nd card on the 2nd hand of a split. I don't remember how many decks it uses, but with those rules, even 6 decks is great. It said in the help screen that each player has their own deck(s) of cards, so that one player's actions has no effect on the next player. We know that multiple players sharing one deck/shoe makes no difference, but I know some people have this superstition that it does, and this computer BJ game takes care of that problem.

I know computer BJ isn't countable, but with great rules at only $1 a hand, I'll play.
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