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May 24th, 2018 at 1:51:16 PM permalink
Deal or No Deal Blackjack is conventional blackjack but there is a surrender, or "banker offer" option with every initial player two cards and dealer up card. I have all the details on my new Deal or No Deal Blackjack page. Sorry, the basic strategy isn't up yet, but it's just the standard one for multi-deck decks and S17. Bottom line is the offers are about 96% of the value of the hand. You can play the game for fun here.

Please visit my new page on the game and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Deal or No Deal Blackjack?

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May 24th, 2018 at 2:12:21 PM permalink
I guess there isn't a good way to implement this idea. Maybe some element of chance that in "the long run" balances out to a 5% HE, but in the short term can offer players 95%-105% of the hand value. Then players would have to decide for themselves if it was good deal or not, which most of your average players would be wrong most of the time. Given that the average 96% payback on the offers, this game mode is incredibly boring to just click no deal every time, thus the feature is worthless.
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May 24th, 2018 at 2:26:37 PM permalink
^ It's sad when there's a new feature that adds nothing to a game. The only thing that might help an average player is presumably it offers more than even money for a Blackjack vs Dealer Ace. Otherwise it's a chocolate teapot.
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May 24th, 2018 at 2:26:37 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Given that the average 96% payback on the offers, this game mode is incredibly boring to just click no deal every time, thus the feature is worthless.



There is a button to decline the offer every time, which I would recommend clicking.
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May 24th, 2018 at 2:31:37 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

The only thing that might help an average player is presumably it offers more than even money for a Blackjack vs Dealer Ace.



I didn't encounter that situation when I played. I assume it would probably offer 104% of the initial bet. If anyone plays and gets that situation, please let me know what the offer is. I hate to play 273 hands waiting for it to happen.

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Otherwise it's a chocolate teapot.



I assumed this was a UK expression. A quick search came upon this chocolate teapot that held boiling water for two minutes: Chocolate teapot proves useful.

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May 24th, 2018 at 2:55:41 PM permalink
Your offer chart has a heading of Roulette 72.

I’m confused here. Given that most of the offers return more than what you bet, isn’t that kinda like a guaranteed win? Or at least that’s what the ploppies would think.

I also found it interesting that only one combination in your chart returned less than half - which is the pay out of a traditional surrender.
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May 24th, 2018 at 2:58:28 PM permalink
I could see this game only being appealing to the type of erratic math-challenged player who let’s say normally bets $25 a hand and then randomly throws up a $1000 bet and gets dealt 20 vs a dealer 6 and decides he doesn’t want to take the chance of losing , so therefore takes the banker deal, because that win amount is still a relatively large amount for a $25 player. Horrible decision mathematically obviously , but people would do it.

Same reason I think all casinos should offer even money on blackjacks vs dealer 10, awful play but I’ve heard more than one person say they wish they had the option and they’d take it if they did
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May 24th, 2018 at 3:35:55 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Deal or No Deal Blackjack is conventional blackjack but there is a surrender, or "banker offer" option with every initial player two cards and dealer up card. I have all the details on my new Deal or No Deal Blackjack page. Sorry, the basic strategy isn't up yet, but it's just the standard one for multi-deck decks and S17. Bottom line is the offers are about 96% of the value of the hand. You can play the game for fun here.

Please visit my new page on the game and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Deal or No Deal Blackjack?



The real question should be how long until the cease and desist letter arrives to the owners of this game from Comcast, who owns NBC.


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May 24th, 2018 at 4:08:16 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Given that most of the offers return more than what you bet, isn’t that kinda like a guaranteed win? Or at least that’s what the ploppies would think.



The bet was $10 and most of the offers were less than $10, which is to be expected. Only about 42% of blackjack hands are positive EV.

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I also found it interesting that only one combination in your chart returned less than half - which is the pay out of a traditional surrender.



That is also to be expected. Not many hands are so bad they are worth less than half the initial bet. 15 vs. 10 and 16 vs. 9 to ace.
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May 24th, 2018 at 4:11:47 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Same reason I think all casinos should offer even money on blackjacks vs dealer 10, awful play but I’ve heard more than one person say they wish they had the option and they’d take it if they did



My last visit to Macau the MGM offered insurance at 2 to 1 when the dealer had a 10 up. That is a 77% house edge. I spoke to the casino manager about it, suggesting fair odds would be 12 to 1, but he just said that he isn't an "odds wizard."

A fair offer on insurance against a 10 would be 1.39 to 1. I'd chastise any casino offering only even money as taking unfair advantage of ignorant players.
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May 24th, 2018 at 4:49:03 PM permalink
They should offer insurance at 10 to 1 when dealer shows 2-9.
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May 24th, 2018 at 5:27:56 PM permalink
Quote: Ace

They should offer insurance at 10 to 1 when dealer shows 2-9.



I agree.
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June 12th, 2018 at 10:27:12 AM permalink
I think i have found a bug within the game im going to try to reproduce it but for memory sake im going to describe it now. i had plenty of money, but i tried to make a bet over the amount i had. it warned me that i didnt have enough for the bet because i was attempting to double the bet, but when i tried to REBET it simply stopped working and wouldnt deal any further... more to come

EDIT: yes i have even restarted the game following the same steps. even if you have the correct amount of money for the next bet, IF you try to double without the correct amount of funds, the rebet button does not work after you try to double and get the warning prompt....

can someone else confirm this for me? im going to keep repeating and if i get any different results ill take back my claim
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