Brushbuck
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April 29th, 2018 at 3:16:25 PM permalink
I have heard that if you have a multicard 16 like for example a 4,5,7 or a 10,4,2 that you should stay against a dealers 10 cause their is less little cards in the dealers deck. But what should you do in that situation of the dealer is showing a 7 or an 8 or a 9 or ace? Should you still stay in that situation? It only talks about the multi card 16 against a dealers 10, just want to make sure it's the same on the other numbers I mentioned. Thanks
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April 29th, 2018 at 4:17:22 PM permalink
I don't see how the number of cards matters.
Hit a hard 16 against a dealer's Ace, 7, 8, or 9; in a game with 3 or more decks, hit against a dealer's 10 as well.
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April 29th, 2018 at 4:24:49 PM permalink
It's not the number of cards but which cards,if your 16 has 4s or 5s it changes the odds slightly enough that standing is better.
Fred Renzey mentions it in his book Blackjack Bluebook.
I don't know the exact rule or how many decks
I think it only applies against a 10,not 7,8,9,orAce.
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April 29th, 2018 at 4:28:43 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

I think it only applies against a 10,not 7,8,9,orAce.

Correct. It's SOOO borderline against 10.
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April 29th, 2018 at 9:00:35 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

It's not the number of cards but which cards,if your 16 has 4s or 5s it changes the odds slightly enough that standing is better.
Fred Renzey mentions it in his book Blackjack Bluebook.
I don't know the exact rule or how many decks
I think it only applies against a 10,not 7,8,9,orAce.




A 16 made up of 4s and 5s necessarily means there's excess 6s.

456A would stand v 10.

664 would hit, sixes being more depleted.
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April 29th, 2018 at 9:03:43 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Correct. It's SOOO borderline against 10.




It's not so borderline if you count sixes as high cards. Which no count does.
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April 30th, 2018 at 7:45:03 PM permalink
i Remenber I read somewhere from BlackjackInfo.com Ken Smith ‘ blog discussing this same problem.
He thinks multi16 v 10 is to stand better than hit. V 7, 8, 9, A is hit.
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April 30th, 2018 at 8:57:48 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

It's not the number of cards but which cards,if your 16 has 4s or 5s it changes the odds slightly enough that standing is better.
Fred Renzey mentions it in his book Blackjack Bluebook.
I don't know the exact rule or how many decks
I think it only applies against a 10,not 7,8,9,orAce.



It's not just your hand, search the table for 4s and 5s, as well.
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April 30th, 2018 at 9:18:17 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

It's not just your hand, search the table for 4s and 5s, as well.



Absolutely correct, Billy. But I'm going to argue that 6s are maybe more important. Perhaps I'm going to argue with myself, but you get my drift.

Of course, I'm only talking 16 v 10, to be clear.

Another similar situation? 16 v. 9, the presence or absence of 7s I think is more important than anything. For example, look at Wizard's card composition page for single deck, specifically, all the multi-card hands of total 16 that say stand against a 9. None of them have 7s.

When I am playing video blackjack, single deck, sometimes I will have to think for a moment if I have a 4-card 16 v. 9, when there are no 7s in the hand. BUT, if there is a 7, I don't hesitate for even a second. Automatic hit.
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May 1st, 2018 at 3:57:11 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

It's not just your hand, search the table for 4s and 5s, as well.


Maybe it should be mentioned that this multicard 16 rule is for a basic strategy player.
If you are counting then obviously you use the count to play your hand .
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