LostWages
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April 27th, 2018 at 5:37:33 PM permalink
We might have to make an unscheduled 4-5 day trip to Clearwater for a health procedure.

I enjoy playing 3:2 double deck $5 blackjack at the downtown Las Vegas casinos - MSS, the Cal, and similar casinos. My bankroll is modest, < $500. I know the barebones basics of card counting and got to try this on my last 3 short visits to Las Vegas in the past 2 years (small wins, <$100). Iím not seeking to make a fortune, just want to enjoy card counting. Iím not much of a social player, and most enjoy playing head-to-head with the dealer if I get to the tables when they first open. Wifey loves the social action; I avoid playing with her, because she doesnít count, but always seems to win!

$10 blackjack would not work for me, and no 6:5 payback, only 3:2.

Runner-up favorite game is Deuces are Wild Video Poker.

My wife and & I are also foodies. High on my bucket list is to eat my first stone crab claws and try Key West Pink shrimp. For wifey, she adores a good fancy prime rib a la Lawryís or Mortonís, i.e., not from a buffet line.

On our return to Honolulu, weíll probably stay a day in Las Vegas - I hope the $5 bj tables havenít disappeared in downtown???!!!

Anyone have some experience/knowledge to share?

Thanks in advance!
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April 27th, 2018 at 7:17:00 PM permalink
Quote: LostWages

. Iím not seeking to make a fortune, just want to enjoy card counting. Iím not much of a social player, and most enjoy playing head-to-head with the dealer if I get to the tables when they first open. Wifey loves the social action; I avoid playing with her, because she doesnít count, but always seems to win!

Ain't that always the way?

Clearwater. Some very upscale resorts there and lots of upscale restaurants and upscale catering services.

Steer clear of the Scientologists. The restaurants that cater to retired Pennsylvania Dutch are good but the food is rather bland.

Steer clear of ALL gambling boats no matter what they advertise. Sailings are erratic if they take place at all. Recall perhaps the recent death of a woman on a casino boat fire. Fifty people enjoyed the five dollar blackjack and twice a week five dollar craps. One of those fifty died. Her autopsy results are still "pending". So whether they say Tampa, Clearwater or St. John's Pass, stay away from those boats that exist more as websites than any reliable sailings.

Tampa's mega casino will be your most likely goal. Its been too long a time for me to give advice on crowds or anything. You want your own 3:2 table all to yourself? Be prepared to go 300 each hand at least afternoons and evenings.
Boz
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April 27th, 2018 at 7:22:31 PM permalink
My 2nd home is near Clearwater and I can help on the food and things to do end but nothing much on the gambling. There is a Seminole Hard Rick about 45 minutes away outside Tampa but Iíve never set food in it. Florida is my getaway place and there is much to do on the water and around town that gambling isnít on my list. There also is a casino boat that goes out from Port Richie, about 25 miles north, but it doesnít have a great reputation and the boat that takes you out to it actually caught on fire a few months. I do think a couple other members also live in the area and may be able to help on the gambling end.

As for food, itís currently Stone Crab season for another month or so. Frenchyís with 4 locations in Clearwater beach and another in Dunedin (5 miles North) is a great place to enjoy them. Gulf caught shrimp can be found in almost every bar and restaurant around town. Clearwater Beach also has many options for Gulf Front restaurants that will satisfy your desires for fresh seafood. Crabbies is another good one and there is an incredible roof top bar and restaurant called Jimmy Guanas on top of the hotel at Pier House 60. Free shot at sunset and the best view of the sunset in the area. There are almost many boat trips that go into the bay and gulf for both dolphin cruises and sunset cruises. My favorite is the Tropics, good crew who gives you a good overview of the area. Itís like $25 for a 2 hour tour and well worth it.

My favorite steakhouse is actually LeeRoy Selmons but it is across the causeway in Tampa, a 20 minutes drive from Clearwater. Owned by a former Buc player, it is a middle of the road steakhouse. Higher rated is Flemings right down the street and is closer to a Mortonís.

Hope this helps and if you do get there, have time to enjoy all Clearwater has to offer.

And yea, that just sounded like a tourism ad.
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April 27th, 2018 at 9:21:17 PM permalink
If you enjoy funky, antique, or gadget shopping, live music, and strolling down an arts district, downtown.St. Petersburg (maybe 10 miles from Clearwater) is one of the more interesting areas in.this part of the country. Central Avenue runs east to west, and is filled with independent restaurants, bars, galleries, shops, and 1/2 dozen museums, including the Salvador Dali museum with a highly recommended collection. Large, old independent bookseller Haslam's at 20th and Central.

They have great public transportation there (Clearwater-St. Pete and all their beach communities, also stretching north to Tarpon Springs, which is a Greek fishing village for centuries), with very cheap all-day passes, several interconnecting trolley lines, and frequent runs The St. Pete area is worth a half-day or full-day visit. The Looper takes you all up and down Central Avenue; think it's $.50 a ride unless you buy an all-day pass. The beach trolley run is interesting unless you're from Hawaii (kidding).

Start with this link

https://www.visitstpeteclearwater.com/article/ride-beach-trolley

and use the menus from there to access all their routes to different places. It seems to base in Clearwater, but there were 4-5 separate companies running trolleys that have now joined in one big cooperative effort.

Edit: this is the trolley and bus site..psta. you can access all the routes and fares from this.

https://www.psta.net/riding-psta/schedulesmap/suncoast-beach-trolley/

Boz: I see your tourism ad and raise you a sales pitch. I don't like Tampa itself much, but the communities farther west are fun.
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LostWages
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April 28th, 2018 at 1:47:13 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Ain't that always the way?

Clearwater. Some very upscale resorts there and lots of upscale restaurants and upscale catering services.

Steer clear of the Scientologists. The restaurants that cater to retired Pennsylvania Dutch are good but the food is rather bland.

Steer clear of ALL gambling boats no matter what they advertise. Sailings are erratic if they take place at all. Recall perhaps the recent death of a woman on a casino boat fire. Fifty people enjoyed the five dollar blackjack and twice a week five dollar craps. One of those fifty died. Her autopsy results are still "pending". So whether they say Tampa, Clearwater or St. John's Pass, stay away from those boats that exist more as websites than any reliable sailings.

Tampa's mega casino will be your most likely goal. Its been too long a time for me to give advice on crowds or anything. You want your own 3:2 table all to yourself? Be prepared to go 300 each hand at least afternoons and evenings.



Fleastiff - Oi! Thanks for the tips - we saw what boat gambling is like on a short trip we took from Los Angeles to Ensenada, Mexico. Yeah, weíll stay away from them.

Big ouch on the pricey hands to enjoy 3:2 bj! This might be a non-gambling visit to best enjoy the food & sights before heading home.

Glad I checked to see the WOV now has the Mar 2018 Blackjack Survey. MSS no longer has $5 bj, but there are a selected few to savor. https://wizardofvegas.com/guides/blackjack-survey/
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LostWages
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April 28th, 2018 at 2:20:04 AM permalink
Quote: boz

As for food, itís currently Stone Crab season for another month or so. Frenchyís with 4 locations in Clearwater beach and another in Dunedin (5 miles North) is a great place to enjoy them. Gulf caught shrimp can be found in almost every bar and restaurant around town. Clearwater Beach also has many options for Gulf Front restaurants that will satisfy your desires for fresh seafood. Crabbies is another good one and there is an incredible roof top bar and restaurant called Jimmy Guanas on top of the hotel at Pier House 60. Free shot at sunset and the best view of the sunset in the area. There are almost many boat trips that go into the bay and gulf for both dolphin cruises and sunset cruises. My favorite is the Tropics, good crew who gives you a good overview of the area. Itís like $25 for a 2 hour tour and well worth it.

My favorite steakhouse is actually LeeRoy Selmons but it is across the causeway in Tampa, a 20 minutes drive from Clearwater. Owned by a former Buc player, it is a middle of the road steakhouse. Higher rated is Flemings right down the street and is closer to a Mortonís.

Hope this helps and if you do get there, have time to enjoy all Clearwater has to offer.



You answered all my foodie questions, and then some! Wish we were going during the stone crab season, but youíve provided so many options. Weíll probably arrive on a Thu, have time for a leisurely dinner (thank goodness, no fasting needed for the procedure), do a 2-3 hour outpatient procedure, have time for a 2nd great dinner, enjoy a full Sat of sightseeing, and then leave Sun. Appreciate the tips!
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LostWages
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April 28th, 2018 at 2:28:56 AM permalink
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Start with this link

https://www.visitstpeteclearwater.com/article/ride-beach-trolley

and use the menus from there to access all their routes to different places. It seems to base in Clearwater, but there were 4-5 separate companies running trolleys that have now joined in one big cooperative effort.

Edit: this is the trolley and bus site..psta. you can access all the routes and fares from this.

https://www.psta.net/riding-psta/schedulesmap/suncoast-beach-trolley/



BBB!

How wonderful to read your tip-filled notes! Still havenít figured out how you always have some thoughtful replies to all our posts- you donít miss a beat, do you?
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April 28th, 2018 at 4:58:23 AM permalink
Hardrocks blackjack is typically $15 with an occasional $10 table in the mornings

Plenty of VP machines to fill your day.

Lastly look at Berns steakhouse or Charlies steakhouse

https://bernssteakhouse.com

I would do berns and hit the sessert room afterwards.

A lot of the clesrwater restaurants tend to end up on dirty diners so we rarely eat there (we live in tamps)

No live craps or roulette in florids
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April 28th, 2018 at 6:33:21 AM permalink
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Quote: beachbumbabs

Start with this link

https://www.visitstpeteclearwater.com/article/ride-beach-trolley

and use the menus from there to access all their routes to different places. It seems to base in Clearwater, but there were 4-5 separate companies running trolleys that have now joined in one big cooperative effort.

Edit: this is the trolley and bus site..psta. you can access all the routes and fares from this.

https://www.psta.net/riding-psta/schedulesmap/suncoast-beach-trolley/



BBB!

How wonderful to read your tip-filled notes! Still havenít figured out how you always have some thoughtful replies to all our posts- you donít miss a beat, do you?



Sure! In this particular case, my brother lived in St. Pete for several years recently, so I was over there a lot. But I became a trolley fan in London, then Paris. It's an outstanding way to get an informed idea of what's interesting in a tourist way, especially the hop-on hop-off types. You can really see everything, sort out what's interesting to you and where it is without a lot of time and expense hunting and parking and fighting unfamiliar traffic.
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LostWages
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April 28th, 2018 at 9:02:38 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Sure! In this particular case, my brother lived in St. Pete for several years recently, so I was over there a lot. But I became a trolley fan in London, then Paris. It's an outstanding way to get an informed idea of what's interesting in a tourist way, especially the hop-on hop-off types. You can really see everything, sort out what's interesting to you and where it is without a lot of time and expense hunting and parking and fighting unfamiliar traffic.



Oh my, youíre a world traveler! I enjoyed similar world travels, but maybe not as adventurous as yours! Thank you for making me enjoy all your posts even more!
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