Mexjack
Mexjack
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March 2nd, 2018 at 3:45:23 AM permalink
I played a game tonight with rules i have never seen. First it is a 4 deck game. S17. Double any 2 or 3 Cards (yes that is right) but wait there's more. Late surrender and surrender after double down. Split aa 4 times. Double after split. And 3 or more card 21 is automatic win. Dealer doesn't have a chance to make 21 for a push. Blackjack is 3 to 2. Anyone have any strategy for surrender after Double down.

Was dealt a 3 4 then a 4. I doubled and pulled a 10 for 21. I was paid on both bets right away and my cards cleared. Then dealer made 21. Crazy. I am not making this up.

Only thing I can think of is they are pulling 10s from the deck. I played 3 shoes and the count was positive 5 to 10 and more the whole time for 3 shoes.
BlackjackGuy123
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March 2nd, 2018 at 4:46:50 AM permalink
You were playing Spanish 21.
BlackjackGuy123
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March 2nd, 2018 at 4:47:09 AM permalink
You were playing Spanish 21. You should double down rescue (surrender after doubling down) with any stiff hand vs 8, 9, T, or A as well as 17 v A
Mexjack
Mexjack
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March 2nd, 2018 at 6:41:25 AM permalink
Ok makes sense now. I am researching the rules and strategy. At least my suspicion of removing 10s was correct. 1 won 24 units in an hour and got out of there. After some research this seems to be a more beatable game than blackjack. I need to get a book for all basic strategy variations and applying card counting.

Your answer was simple and huge help.

Thanks
Mexicojack
BlackjackGuy123
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March 2nd, 2018 at 6:45:26 AM permalink
Check out "The Pros Guide to Spanish 21 and Pontoon" by Katrina Walker
DRich
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March 2nd, 2018 at 6:46:19 AM permalink
I think this book is the authority on Spanish 21.

https://www.amazon.com/Pros-Guide-Spanish-Australian-Pontoon/dp/1435710657
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BlackjackGuy123
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March 2nd, 2018 at 6:49:17 AM permalink
Also if anyone could tell me the probability of the player busting while following basic strategy in Spanish 21 I would be greatly appreciative.
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