Started out with roulette ended with blackjack
February 16th, 2018 at 2:38:49 PM
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Quote: heatmapSee ya guys,
See ya. Wouldn't wanna be ya $:o)
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
February 16th, 2018 at 3:29:30 PM
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Ahh, the old -
"Here's an idea.
Am I right?
No?
What do you mean I'm not right?
You all suck!"
"Here's an idea.
Am I right?
No?
What do you mean I'm not right?
You all suck!"
February 16th, 2018 at 4:22:59 PM
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Heatmap,
You can't bet 2/3 of the numbers on a roulette wheel and get an edge on this planet or any other, regardless of what they may tell you on some system forum.
You might get some comps so be sure to use your players card.
You can't bet 2/3 of the numbers on a roulette wheel and get an edge on this planet or any other, regardless of what they may tell you on some system forum.
You might get some comps so be sure to use your players card.
February 16th, 2018 at 5:07:35 PM
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OKAY, I skipped 3 pages of this. I skimmed your first response and it was nonsense to me.
I can only surmise the rest is as well.
I can only surmise the rest is as well.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 16th, 2018 at 7:06:26 PM
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Quote: heatmapi hope your imaginations grow bigger
That's your and most gamblers problem. Imagination turns into paranoia.
February 16th, 2018 at 7:29:50 PM
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I'm not buying the roulette AP thing either, but am I the only one who can't figure out how the prisoner's dilemma has anything to do with blackjack?
The prisoner's dilemma is a game theory illustration on how asymmetric information causes rational actors to a result that is not optimal for all players... well, I guess the prison guards did ok.
In blackjack, all players have the same information INCLUDING the casino. Some players will play better than others... But that's just how games work.
The prisoner's dilemma is a game theory illustration on how asymmetric information causes rational actors to a result that is not optimal for all players... well, I guess the prison guards did ok.
In blackjack, all players have the same information INCLUDING the casino. Some players will play better than others... But that's just how games work.
February 18th, 2018 at 7:34:32 AM
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it's not the prisoner's dilemma, it is the ITERATED prisoner's dilemma
February 18th, 2018 at 8:39:25 AM
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Quote: BlackjackGuy123it's not the prisoner's dilemma, it is the ITERATED prisoner's dilemma
Um, ok... So help me identify 1) the asymmetric information and 2) the cooperative behavior as it relates to black jack.
I propose there is none unless there is next card knowledge.
February 18th, 2018 at 11:08:15 AM
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There is also a patent, assigned to Shufflemaster, for an automated shuffler that can deal out cards in any predetermined sequence that you program it for. I discussed it in an earlier thread (search my screenname for those posts)
However, there are also very significant barriers in the U.S. to prevent such a shuffler device being used in a casino, and there is no evidence that we are aware of that Shufflemaster has ever actually built and sold such a device. One forum member has purchased a couple of Shufflemaster devices and has studied them intensively and has posted that those models absolutely do NOT have a capability to deal out any predetermined sequence of cards -i.e., they deal cards randomly.
This does not mean that Shufflemaster has not licensed the "predetermined sequence" shuffler patent to another party that has manufactured such devices for use in foreign countries where regulatory controls are lax or non-existent. We have no information either way about that possibility.
So: the existence of a patent does not necessarily mean that the technology is in use and in U.S. casinos (and particularly in non-Indian casinos) the automated shufflers on table games are almost certainly not rigged. But I agree with you - its interesting and worthwhile to keep abreast of technology developments and to ask questions. There are a small number of documented cases in which U.S. casinos have rigged the gambling equipment, and I try to keep my eyes wide open.
However, there are also very significant barriers in the U.S. to prevent such a shuffler device being used in a casino, and there is no evidence that we are aware of that Shufflemaster has ever actually built and sold such a device. One forum member has purchased a couple of Shufflemaster devices and has studied them intensively and has posted that those models absolutely do NOT have a capability to deal out any predetermined sequence of cards -i.e., they deal cards randomly.
This does not mean that Shufflemaster has not licensed the "predetermined sequence" shuffler patent to another party that has manufactured such devices for use in foreign countries where regulatory controls are lax or non-existent. We have no information either way about that possibility.
So: the existence of a patent does not necessarily mean that the technology is in use and in U.S. casinos (and particularly in non-Indian casinos) the automated shufflers on table games are almost certainly not rigged. But I agree with you - its interesting and worthwhile to keep abreast of technology developments and to ask questions. There are a small number of documented cases in which U.S. casinos have rigged the gambling equipment, and I try to keep my eyes wide open.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
