BW21
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October 21st, 2017 at 10:38:12 AM permalink
Looking for some insight on blackjack history. Roughly How many 7 figure card counter winners have their been in the last fifty years. Not just overall AP income but mostly from blackjack card counting. Obviously a good chunk of the hyland, MIT and Greek crews are on the list. I was thinking maybe 100-150 people tops? If those are correct it makes you see how cc’s are a drop in the bucket because casinos in the US have probably made 100 billion offering blackjack in the last fifty years.
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October 21st, 2017 at 10:40:12 AM permalink
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Looking for some insight on blackjack history. Roughly How many 7 figure card counter winners have their been in the last fifty years. Not just overall AP income but mostly from blackjack card counting. Obviously a good chunk of the hyland, MIT and Greek crews are on the list. I was thinking maybe 100-150 people tops? If those are correct it makes you see how cc’s are a drop in the bucket because casinos in the US have probably made 100 billion offering blackjack in the last fifty years.


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October 21st, 2017 at 11:50:36 AM permalink
I am sure a bunch of no names have hit that milestone. Low profile is good, but eventually other AP’s and casinos start to notice you. Pretty tough to keep your mug out of griffin or OSN with that much in career winnings.
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October 21st, 2017 at 12:35:16 PM permalink
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Pretty tough to keep your mug out of griffin or OSN with that much in career winnings.


There are plenty of people in them that are net losers too.
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October 21st, 2017 at 3:16:26 PM permalink
No doubt. People get backed off for purely spreading more than casinos would like to admit. I would say most are net winners. Would be interesting to actually see a copy. I would not be surprised if griffin hyped up the bios of some of these groups. These cc’s are winning billions a year or some such bs.
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October 27th, 2017 at 2:34:57 PM permalink
This is a biased question though, with the "just card counting not AP" rule. Most card counters are AP's, and after so long counting and spending time in casinos they'll notice or figure out other bigger edges. I believe I could make 7 figures counting in my lifetime, but I probably never will because I've gone down another path that's already returned much more than CC would have for the next 10 years, with a fraction of the heat, and 10x the comps as well. It just doesn't make sense for me to count cards very often anymore...
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October 27th, 2017 at 3:20:37 PM permalink
I've made some pretty good money in the stock market. The funny thing is, it doesn't make me feel good. Sometimes I think about it and I wonder why I haven't made 10 times as much. I wish I could get my head to a place where I just don't give an eff about money at all. Just have enough to be comfortable and enjoy some of the things I want to do. For me, making money hasn't been a great experience. You wonder why you didn't make a lot more and you're always worrying about losing it. I wish I didn't care about money at all.
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October 28th, 2017 at 8:53:41 AM permalink
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I've made some pretty good money in the stock market. The funny thing is, it doesn't make me feel good. Sometimes I think about it and I wonder why I haven't made 10 times as much. I wish I could get my head to a place where I just don't give an eff about money at all. Just have enough to be comfortable and enjoy some of the things I want to do. For me, making money hasn't been a great experience. You wonder why you didn't make a lot more and you're always worrying about losing it. I wish I didn't care about money at all.



The first step is to understand that the paper in your wallet is NOT money. Inflation is the silent tax no one talks about and the most deadly. This is what happens when you get rid of the gold standard and have a central private bank issuing and printing paper notes out of thin air, which is backed by nothing and then charging interest on top of it.

While 99% of the population is worried about which puppet to elect come presidential time, these same drones are blind to the real problem in this country and the single most destructive thing that has caused America to go from one of the worlds strongest nations to the worlds biggest debtor. How about we start worrying about who we're electing in our state because those same people will be the ones representing you in Congress. Adding to that fact, we should also be only voting in the people who will sign an affidavit saying they will end the fed and then pray that corruption doesn't run deep and that they get into Congress and repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

I hope you're investing that paper in your wallet and brokerage accounts in to hard assets such as gold or real estate because the sad truth of it all is that in 20 years you will have lost 95% of the purchasing power of those original bills.

End the Federal Reserve.
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October 28th, 2017 at 9:55:42 AM permalink
Rant on, brother. Rant on.
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October 28th, 2017 at 10:46:42 PM permalink
7 figures? You mean $1,000,000+ Hell, there are whales that have won that much at BJ in a single weekend.

Elite card counters are like elite Olympic-level athletes or elite video-gamers. If you have the talent (and most people don't) and if you are willing to dedicate your life to excellence in one activity, you may become world-class or "elite."

But you only have one life, so why? Why spend your life grinding away in casinos or training in gyms or leveling up on a zillion video games? I would rather live a full, rich life filled with all sorts of experiences and hobbies and relationships. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy gambling and getting an edge and think it can be a good part of a good life. But "card counting" is not the leaderboard that I want to be on top of.*


*Actually, its the WOV NFL Picks leaderboard that I want to be on top of, LOL. And, that's not going so well for me.
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