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July 23rd, 2017 at 4:13:43 PM permalink
On my European vacation I noticed a new blackjack side bet at the Grand Casino Brussels called Perfect 11's. It wins if the player's first two cards total 11, including a blackjack. The win depends on the composition of the 11 and something three dice that are blank on five sides and with an infinity symbol on one side.

Please click the Perfect 11's link for the rules and my analysis. As usual, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you bet on the Perfect 11's if playing blackjack anyway?

P.S. I hope this is an infinity symbol: ∞
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July 23rd, 2017 at 10:40:15 PM permalink
I'd really like to see that dome they shoot the dice in. Do they set the dice any certain way or let them sit as they landed the last time? I'm picturing a bigger version of the little plastic device used in Trouble.

I think I would like the side bet, but only for the novelty, and only temporarily until bored. It's an impulse bet, so that makes sense. I think you make the bet just to use and see the device work.
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July 24th, 2017 at 8:01:36 AM permalink
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I'd really like to see that dome they shoot the dice in. Do they set the dice any certain way or let them sit as they landed the last time? I'm picturing a bigger version of the little plastic device used in Trouble.





I haven't heard anyone mention that game in about 40 years, so I had to look up what the game looked like. Yep, pretty much a glorified version of that. However, the dome is about 8" high and the base vibrates pretty good, like in Bubble Craps. Seems like a fair shake to me.
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July 24th, 2017 at 8:13:54 AM permalink
Just another goofy side bet to get the little bitties all riled up if you don't play it and hit a paying hand.

Pass.



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P.S. I hope this is an infinity symbol: ∞

Yep.


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I haven't heard anyone mention that game in about 40 years, so I had to look up what the game looked like.

I think it was mentioned in threads when the bubble craps was first introduced - complete with the actual name.

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July 24th, 2017 at 8:17:50 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Just another goofy side bet to get the little bitties all riled up if you don't play it and hit a paying hand.

Pass.



Yep.


I think it was mentioned in threads when the bubble craps was first introduced - complete with the actual name.

:: nerd alert ::

It's called Pop-O-Matic!



Good trivia question. I did remember that, fwiw. I found it fascinating when I was about 4. The commercials, in between Sat am cartoons, always made a big deal about that being in the game board.
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July 24th, 2017 at 9:52:04 AM permalink
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Good trivia question. I did remember that, fwiw. I found it fascinating when I was about 4. The commercials, in between Sat am cartoons, always made a big deal about that being in the game board.



Kids are always losing pieces to games. The built in pop-o-matic is not a bad idea.
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July 24th, 2017 at 10:46:37 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Kids are always losing pieces to games. The built in pop-o-matic is not a bad idea.


Losing the dice isn't the problem with that game, Trouble. It's losing the game pieces that is.
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July 24th, 2017 at 11:29:15 AM permalink
We had Headache instead of trouble.
If you held the bubble down when you pushed it you could control the die somewhat,or maybe I just thought i could control the die.
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July 24th, 2017 at 1:14:17 PM permalink
Correction: The "Returns" are usually noted as negative values... unless this game has a 71% positive return..

hehe... the fact that a side game with a $10+ usd minimum, and a 70% house edge can get a trial in Amsterdam is the reason legal weed is a bad thing.


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July 24th, 2017 at 1:53:28 PM permalink
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Correction: The "Returns" are usually noted as negative values... unless this game has a 71% positive return..



When wins are on a "for one" basis, I typically express the bottom line as a return. For example, the return for 9/6 Jacks or Better is 99.54%. Seldom does anyone say it has a house edge of 0.46%. Since this game had a flat bet amount and wins were all "for one" I expressed the results in "return" form, as opposed to "expected value." So, just the fixed wins return 70%, not to mention all the progressives. So the house edge is at most 30%.
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