https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLWC4BxBEaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flJJ1b6QUAU
Someone doing this kind of stuff would clean up at the "charity games" running in other states like Riva was/is running(whatever happened to him?) Probably very little risk of being caught at places like this. From what I understand, they don't have any surveillance. They would have to suspect you and then set up a surveillance operation.Quote: DeucekiesSeems to me like these moves are obsolete now. Don't most casinos have strict rules against having two hands on the cards in a pitch game?
IMO the "charity games" are BS, especially with the horrible pays and it being questionable as to how much and where that money really goes. I wouldn't shed a tear for the organizers one bit.
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One of the boldest things have seen on video was a guy switching and entire shoe. WTF.
I can't ever get over the lady that put sticky stuff on the bottom of her glass and then tapped people's chips for luck and the chip stuck to the bottom. I feel bad for the victims.
There is a slot move I'm fairly sure would work, one that wouldn't be too difficult (I would have to ask someone who knows more about machines) but I have never heard anyone ever mention it on or off the forums. Perhaps no one thought if it or it doesn't work.
He doesn't need 2 hands on the cards to pull off some of his moves, especially the bet capping move.Quote: DeucekiesSeems to me like these moves are obsolete now. Don't most casinos have strict rules against having two hands on the cards in a pitch game?
I didn't see him for awhile and then ran into him at the Longhorn. Poor guy had his arm in a sling.
I would be wondering what he had inside that sling, not how he got it. He may have advanced to a different cheating system.Quote: billryanI used to run into this weasel of an Asian downtown all the time who constantly capped his sidebets. I couldn't believe they didn't catch on to him. When he lost, he'd lose $2 but half the time he won he'd have $6 out.
I didn't see him for awhile and then ran into him at the Longhorn. Poor guy had his arm in a sling.
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/dice-sliding_duo_who_cheated_c.html
Quote: IbeatyouracesNever let a magician deal at your home poker game.
Or jailbirds.
One of my Fraternity Brothers spent 30 days locked up for repeated DWIs and learned to deal seconds and from the bottom of the deck.
He could deal you three Kings and himself a full house.
Can't imagine what he would be capable of after a year or two.
Yes its cheating and illegal, and there has been more than one case.Quote: StrangeMageis that right to call dice sliding cheating? aren't the only rules that they have to hit the back wall? looks like they didnt so they should just invalidate the roll. I don't see how this is prosecutable.
P.S. It didn't hit the back wall.
Quote: IbeatyouracesNever let a magician deal at your home poker game.
Many magicians would be caught red-handed trying to cheat in a poker game. At the very least they would arouse suspicion by how flashy and perfect their shuffling and dealing is.
Quote: StrangeMageis DI considered cheating then? what's the defining difference?
First, there is a controversy over whether or not DI is even possible. What this criminal was doing in sliding the 2 die was fixing the outcome which is why it is illegal. If DI is achievable the die are not slid but are thrown in a manner with little or no rotation somewhat like (I think) a knuckleball attempting to make them stick not every time but more often than randomness would indicate when they do land on the table based on the way they were set in the thrower's hand. Throwing this way could not be called illegal because it is too similar to throws that are very ordinary. And there is a very strong claim out there that DI is basically not realistically possible which would make casinos look very foolish if they tried to hassle a dice thrower who to a layman would look so very similar to an ordinary dice thrower.