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The Blackjack ball! Whilst no one there knows I even exist, I still think it would be amazing to attend... To discuss old stories, gambling, odds, and statistics for hours with what I consider legends of the gambling world. What a night it would be. None the less, when we don't go usually someone is kind enough to get the Trivia Questions for the first part of the Grossjean Cup competition and post them online after the ball for us all to have fun and review and try ourselves.
Does anyone have a copy of the questions from this years ball? I always enjoy going through and trying to answer them to see how I would do. I think I got 9 or 10 out of 21 from last years =/. Anyways, I'd greatly appreciate it if someone has them or has access to them would post them! Thanks if you can.
Has anyone on here attended? Did anyone here attend this years?
I thought the only people to be banned for winning too much was Richard Munchkin and James Grossjean? The Wizard would have to win numerous times before getting banned, and the trivia is only the first half of the competition.Quote: DRichObviously Bob Dancer and the Wizard have both participated. Didn't the Wizard get banned from it the year after winning it? Lesson to be learned, don't befriend Shelden Adelson.
I'd be interested to hear if Mike has gone, how he's done in the trivia and assuming he made it past that (because he loves trivia) the skills competitions...
Quote: RomesAnyways, I'd greatly appreciate it if someone has them or has access to them would post them! Thanks if you can.
I don't have a copy, but RWM does. Since he knows you, he might send you a copy if you email a request.
Quote: Romes
I'd be interested to hear if Mike has gone, how he's done in the trivia and assuming he made it past that (because he loves trivia) the skills competitions...
Mike did definitely win it one year. He was not banned because of winning. My understanding is that he was banned because he went and worked for a casino company.
If I am not mistaken Anthony Curtis was runner up that year too.
I have attended multiple times.Quote: RomesPoll for fun, and to learn things about my fellow WoV members...
The Blackjack ball! Whilst no one there knows I even exist, I still think it would be amazing to attend... To discuss old stories, gambling, odds, and statistics for hours with what I consider legends of the gambling world. What a night it would be. None the less, when we don't go usually someone is kind enough to get the Trivia Questions for the first part of the Grossjean Cup competition and post them online after the ball for us all to have fun and review and try ourselves.
Does anyone have a copy of the questions from this years ball? I always enjoy going through and trying to answer them to see how I would do. I think I got 9 or 10 out of 21 from last years =/. Anyways, I'd greatly appreciate it if someone has them or has access to them would post them! Thanks if you can.
Has anyone on here attended? Did anyone here attend this years?
Quote: HunterhillI have attended multiple times.
OK, but which brand of bubbly did you proffer as the price of admission?
Dom?
Veuve Clicquot?
Bollinger"
Cristal?
Krug, perhaps?
Quote: MrVOK, but which brand of bubbly did you proffer as the price of admission?
Dom?
Veuve Clicquot?
Bollinger"
Cristal?
Krug, perhaps?
Perrier Jouet
Nice. Has it been in recent years such as this year? How did you fair in the competition, or did you sustain from competing?Quote: HunterhillI have attended multiple times.
Well don't leave us on a cliffhanger like that... Why not? Legends in gambling, booze, fun events... Sounds like a... ball to me.Quote: IbeatyouracesI wouldn't go to it.
Quote: RomesWell don't leave us on a cliffhanger like that... Why not? Legends in gambling, booze, fun events... Sounds like a... ball to me.
Anonymity. Edited per request. :-)
Quote: RomesHa, you should maybe edit that out =)... but yes, now I get your point.
Done ;-)
Quote: RomesNice. Has it been in recent years such as this year? How did you fair in the competition, or did you sustain from competing?
It's been a few years now,I went 4 or 5 times.
I made the final table 3 times was runner up once and won it once.
Quote: HunterhillPerrier Jouet
Love that stuff. Got a bottle with glasses gift set for a wedding present. We killed it while we wrote up our separation agreement 10 years later.
So ibya, why wouldn't you go? Grouch Marx type objection?
I'll vouch he has a good reason lol =). Secret stuffs.Quote: beachbumbabs...So ibya, why wouldn't you go? Grouch Marx type objection?
How many other individuals do you know that won over $15 million from casinos... especially in a similar time span?Quote: IbeatyouracesA little off topic but I would like to say that Don Johnson was a poor choice for the HoF.
He seems like an obvious candidate to me, and while his contributions may differ from Ed Thorp, they both have a great story to tell about the game.
Quote: IbeatyouracesA little off topic but I would like to say that Don Johnson was a poor choice for the HoF.
I would have to disagree with that.
He thought outside the box,and he got the money.
Although there definitely are some others who should be in the hall of fame.
Quote: HunterhillI would have to disagree with that.
He thought outside the box,and he got the money.
Although there definitely are some others who should be in the hall of fame.
You and Romes both realize he won from HC'ing and ST'ing. The only difference between him and us was the wager amounts. He didn't do anything revolutionary.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou and Romes both realize he won from HC'ing and ST'ing. The only difference between him and us was the wager amounts. He didn't do anything revolutionary.
Well it was a combination of many things,the loss rebate certainly didn't hurt.
Yes he did. He abused their front money, loss rebates, and my personal favorite was how he flipped the "malfunction voids all pays" slot machine lingo to the house. I.E. Even if it didn't effect the outcome of the hand, if the dealer did not follow proper procedure he got his bet as a FREE BET from the casino. Imagine getting $50k once or twice a night as a FREE BET. He also had the perfect setup of appearing to be an average player and then getting a team together to train him to be an expert player. Definitely attacked the game from a different angle that I personally couldn't even do.Quote: IbeatyouracesYou and Romes both realize he won from HC'ing and ST'ing. The only difference between him and us was the wager amounts. He didn't do anything revolutionary.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou and Romes both realize he won from HC'ing and ST'ing. The only difference between him and us was the wager amounts. He didn't do anything revolutionary.
Not that I'm either Romes or HH, but I didn't realize that. I thought he'd negotiated a loss rebate that ensured a win, then ran good, and kept parlaying both the luck and the br. Shrug. Guess that was his PR guy's spin or something. He wasn't a hero of mine, but kind of disappointed if that's the real story. Not that I don't believe you.
If someone did everything he did, but they ran bad and lost or they bet much smaller amounts, should they be in the BJ HOF?Quote: RomesYes he did. He abused their front money, loss rebates, and my personal favorite was how he flipped the "malfunction voids all pays" slot machine lingo to the house. I.E. Even if it didn't effect the outcome of the hand, if the dealer did not follow proper procedure he got his bet as a FREE BET from the casino. Imagine getting $50k once or twice a night as a FREE BET. He also had the perfect setup of appearing to be an average player and then getting a team together to train him to be an expert player. Definitely attacked the game from a different angle that I personally couldn't even do.
The amount won shouldn't be a real factor.
If that's the case, perhaps the person that hit Lion Share should be in the slot HOF as well?
If someone did everything he did, but they ran bad and lost, or they bet much smaller amounts, should they be in the BJ HOF?Quote: RomesYes he did. He abused their front money, loss rebates, and my personal favorite was how he flipped the "malfunction voids all pays" slot machine lingo to the house. I.E. Even if it didn't effect the outcome of the hand, if the dealer did not follow proper procedure he got his bet as a FREE BET from the casino. Imagine getting $50k once or twice a night as a FREE BET. He also had the perfect setup of appearing to be an average player and then getting a team together to train him to be an expert player. Definitely attacked the game from a different angle that I personally couldn't even do.
The amount won shouldn't be a real factor.
If that's the case, perhaps the person that hit Lion Share should be in the slot HOF as well?
Quote: AxelWolf..If that's the case, perhaps the person that hit Lion Share should be in the slot HOF as well?
The guy that hit the Megabucks slot twice should!! :-)
Quote: AxelWolfIf someone did everything he did, but they ran bad and lost, or they bet much smaller amounts, should they be in the BJ HOF?
The amount won shouldn't be a real factor.
If that's the case, perhaps the person that hit Lion Share should be in the slot HOF as well?
If they bet smaller they never could have negotiated the deals that he had.
He also won over quite a few sessions, Yes he did run good, but with edge he had there's almost no chance that he loses over multiple sessions.
Quote: RomesPoll for fun, and to learn things about my fellow WoV members...
The Blackjack ball! Whilst no one there knows I even exist, I still think it would be amazing to attend... To discuss old stories, gambling, odds, and statistics for hours with what I consider legends of the gambling world. What a night it would be. None the less, when we don't go usually someone is kind enough to get the Trivia Questions for the first part of the Grossjean Cup competition and post them online after the ball for us all to have fun and review and try ourselves.
Does anyone have a copy of the questions from this years ball? I always enjoy going through and trying to answer them to see how I would do. I think I got 9 or 10 out of 21 from last years =/. Anyways, I'd greatly appreciate it if someone has them or has access to them would post them! Thanks if you can.
Has anyone on here attended? Did anyone here attend this years?
To get back on track, if you're a paid subscriber to the Blackjack Inside Newsletter, it's in this month's edition.
I'm not a paid subscriber, so please nobody ask me for it.
That's not true, people have negotiated better percentages for far less money.Quote: HunterhillIf they bet smaller they never could have negotiated the deals that he had.
He also won over quite a few sessions, Yes he did run good, but with edge he had there's almost no chance that he loses over multiple sessions.
Someone could lose if they were to negotiate a monster deal and run bad on the bigger deals that would wipe out all the lessor profits from the lessor deals.
Quote: AxelWolfThat's not true, people have negotiated better percentages for far less money.
Someone could lose if they were to negotiate a monster deal and run bad on the bigger deals that would wipe out all the lessor profits from the lessor deals.
Well I guess it depends on how you define smaller.
Do they need to be an innovator, win a lot of money?
Be a consistent long term winner ,even if the dollar amount isn't huge?
Quote: HunterhillWhat criteria do you think should be used to get someone in the bj hof?
Do they need to be an innovator, win a lot of money?
Be a consistent long term winner ,even if the dollar amount isn't huge?
As far as I'm concerned, is a useless title. Most AP's go out of their way to remain anonymous. So what good comes from this accolade? Nothing that I can see. I don't need other people's approval or fanfare for what I've done.
I think it should be a combination of diffrent things including but not necessary or limited to "being an innovator, being a consistent long term winner ,even if the dollar amount isn't huge."Quote: HunterhillWhat criteria do you think should be used to get someone in the bj hof?
Do they need to be an innovator, win a lot of money?
Be a consistent long term winner ,even if the dollar amount isn't huge?
Quote: IbeatyouracesBetter edit some of that Axel...
Yeah lesser is spelt with an E instead of an O
Quote: IbeatyouracesBetter edit some of that Axel...
He once wrote "misolaniouse".
I think it needs to be someone that has changed the game in some way. Someone that what they did, stopped the community and drew attention to it. If it's something no one's done before, that's innovative. If they win a larger amount of money than anyone previously in the same time frame, that's pretty astounding.Quote: HunterhillWhat criteria do you think should be used to get someone in the bj hof?
Do they need to be an innovator, win a lot of money?
Be a consistent long term winner ,even if the dollar amount isn't huge?
Don Johnson did all of this and more. He's definitely an appropriate candidate for the HOF, not just because he won a bunch but because of all of the other circumstances that surrounded him too.
I think that's where I got them from last year... Anyone a current subscriber that wouldn't mind sharing?Quote: IbeatyouracesTo get back on track, if you're a paid subscriber to the Blackjack Inside Newsletter, it's in this month's edition.
I'm not a paid subscriber, so please nobody ask me for it.
Quote: RomesI think that's where I got them from last year... Anyone a current subscriber that wouldn't mind sharing?
I can't count the number of extra e-mail accounts I made to get the 3 free months that they used to offer from that DeepNet Technologies. It's just not worth $20 a year.