The do not ever do this thread
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:13:00 AM
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While I don't normally post something that is embarrassing, I have waited a couple of weeks to post it in hopes that someone else doesn't do what I did.
A couple of weekends ago, on Friday, I went to Twin River and played blackjack for a couple of hours. I had a bank roll of $5,000 on me. Two hours into my first session I was up +$850. I took the dinner comp and went to the nice steak house but I ate rather on the light side (due to being diabetic). I had a nice steak, some spinach, and two monstrous glasses of wine. I ordered a third glass and brought it back to the tables with me. Big Mistake....
I texted my wife and told her I'm going to be awhile because I was a little light headed and didn't want to drive that hour and fifteen minutes home.
Long story short, I was in and out the whole time, drank (and I'm estimating from what a couple of people told me that I know at the casino) approximately 9 to 11 glasses of wine. I snap out of it and it's 3 am and all my money is gone. I didn't even realize that it was gone until the next day. I somehow played the entire time drunk and they squeezed every last bit of money out of me. I have no idea how much I was tipping or how much I was playing.
They even let me drive home. The drive was a blur. I vaguely remember seeing 4 lines to my right and 4 lines to my left and if I would have hit someone I would have regretted it for the rest of my life. My wife didn't know I got home nor did she know I was drunk. She said I set off the alarm in the house and passed out on the steps. The next day I could barely stand or walk. I was dizzy as hell. My step son got me some greasy food and a few hours later I was much better.
So, most of you probably already know this but don't drink and gamble. It was a tough learning lesson for me and to be honest with you, I never get drunk. So, this was my first hangover...
And, it's a couple of weeks later and I'm still pissed as hell about losing!
A couple of weekends ago, on Friday, I went to Twin River and played blackjack for a couple of hours. I had a bank roll of $5,000 on me. Two hours into my first session I was up +$850. I took the dinner comp and went to the nice steak house but I ate rather on the light side (due to being diabetic). I had a nice steak, some spinach, and two monstrous glasses of wine. I ordered a third glass and brought it back to the tables with me. Big Mistake....
I texted my wife and told her I'm going to be awhile because I was a little light headed and didn't want to drive that hour and fifteen minutes home.
Long story short, I was in and out the whole time, drank (and I'm estimating from what a couple of people told me that I know at the casino) approximately 9 to 11 glasses of wine. I snap out of it and it's 3 am and all my money is gone. I didn't even realize that it was gone until the next day. I somehow played the entire time drunk and they squeezed every last bit of money out of me. I have no idea how much I was tipping or how much I was playing.
They even let me drive home. The drive was a blur. I vaguely remember seeing 4 lines to my right and 4 lines to my left and if I would have hit someone I would have regretted it for the rest of my life. My wife didn't know I got home nor did she know I was drunk. She said I set off the alarm in the house and passed out on the steps. The next day I could barely stand or walk. I was dizzy as hell. My step son got me some greasy food and a few hours later I was much better.
So, most of you probably already know this but don't drink and gamble. It was a tough learning lesson for me and to be honest with you, I never get drunk. So, this was my first hangover...
And, it's a couple of weeks later and I'm still pissed as hell about losing!
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:27:38 AM
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The hell with drinking and gambling. WTF were you doing driving?!?!?!?!?
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:30:23 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story. I'm afraid that all you can do is file this one under "expensive lesson learned." I would be outraged that the casino let me keep playing well beyond (obviously) the point where I knew what I was doing or even where I was. But you were in an a) Indian b) casino. They have no moral compunctions, and you were a prime sheep to be sheared.
I would find it very alarming to have virtually no memory of much of the night's events. That alone would scare me away from ever getting drunk again. In point of fact, I haven't been drunk for forty years, and I limit myself to one beer or one glass of wine--but that's because I don't like the loss of inhibitions and motor control that comes with getting drunk. And of course, that loss of judgment and inhibitions is precisely why casinos make alcohol so readily available. After that fourth or fifth glass of wine, you were now the PERFECT customer--loaded, and loaded!
Allow me to suggest a strategy I've used in the past when I've done something really stupid and expensive. Focus on the positive aspects of the situation. First, you obviously learned something (not to be discounted). Second, it could have been worse. Suppose you woke up, not at home and intact, but in jail or handcuffed to a hospital bed? And you found out that you had killed two people in a head-on collision? Your life would have been ruined, and you would probably never forgive yourself.
So even though it hurts to think about this incident, you actually got off easy.
I would find it very alarming to have virtually no memory of much of the night's events. That alone would scare me away from ever getting drunk again. In point of fact, I haven't been drunk for forty years, and I limit myself to one beer or one glass of wine--but that's because I don't like the loss of inhibitions and motor control that comes with getting drunk. And of course, that loss of judgment and inhibitions is precisely why casinos make alcohol so readily available. After that fourth or fifth glass of wine, you were now the PERFECT customer--loaded, and loaded!
Allow me to suggest a strategy I've used in the past when I've done something really stupid and expensive. Focus on the positive aspects of the situation. First, you obviously learned something (not to be discounted). Second, it could have been worse. Suppose you woke up, not at home and intact, but in jail or handcuffed to a hospital bed? And you found out that you had killed two people in a head-on collision? Your life would have been ruined, and you would probably never forgive yourself.
So even though it hurts to think about this incident, you actually got off easy.
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:37:45 AM
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Unsolved Mysteries, it sounds like. What happened to Joeldeze that night? How did he nor his wife not realize he was drunk 😵? Had he been abducted, probed and robbed by aliens going to the casino, by implanting false memories, or was his blood sugar just low the whole time?
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September 23rd, 2016 at 9:42:35 AM
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There are two things of great concern here: DUI and BJUI.
My question to casino employees: Did you receive training in handling intoxicated or appeared to be intoxicated patron? I think a bartender can be criminally (???) charged for continuing serving drink to intoxicated patron.
What is the law regarding criminal or civil liability for casino employee (dealer, pit boss, waitress, etc...) involving intoxicated patron?
My question to casino employees: Did you receive training in handling intoxicated or appeared to be intoxicated patron? I think a bartender can be criminally (???) charged for continuing serving drink to intoxicated patron.
What is the law regarding criminal or civil liability for casino employee (dealer, pit boss, waitress, etc...) involving intoxicated patron?
September 23rd, 2016 at 9:53:18 AM
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Being that I'm not diabetic, I don't understand the reaction to alcohol that diabetics can have, but this seems weird that you would go from being fine to completely out of it very quickly. Are you sure someone didn't dump something in one of your glasses of wine?
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:12:25 AM
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Quote: rsactuaryAre you sure someone didn't dump something in one of your glasses of wine?
From the description of his progression, that's what it sounds like... Maybe you didn't actually lose the money... Someone may have simply taken it somewhere along the way.
May not be a terrible idea to contact the casino to have them take a look into the situation a little further, by taking a look at the films a bit. If of course you don't have a problem with them backtracking you...
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September 23rd, 2016 at 10:34:38 AM
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Quote: mrsuit31From the description of his progression, that's what it sounds like... Maybe you didn't actually lose the money... Someone may have simply taken it somewhere along the way.
May not be a terrible idea to contact the casino to have them take a look into the situation a little further, by taking a look at the films a bit. If of course you don't have a problem with them backtracking you...
I actually contacted them the Monday after the weekend. They looked into it and contacted me two days later. They said that it is not the dealers job to monitor how much anyone drinks at the table and they said they could not confirm how much I had drank. They also mentioned that I had signed my name and social security number on a form because whenever someone spends X amount they have to report it to the IRS. I don't even remember doing that and that made me angry as well. So, I asked them what amount does a person need to spend before that type of request is made? They said they aren't allowed to provide that information. That's when the yelling started.
I have no idea what really happened on that night and I only vaguely remember parts of the drive. I refuse to drink by myself ever again. I don't know if they put anything in my drink. All I know is my pockets were empty and my bank roll was gone. My wife was very angry at the casino for not contacting her (because they know her too) and letting her know I was too intoxicated to drive.
At this point, it's just a bad experience and a costly learning lesson. The only good news is no one got hurt. I was angry at myself for putting myself into the situation in the first place. I should have just gone home and ignored the comp dinner. They always try to keep you there to hopefully get their money back. I knew better in that regard.
As for the casino behavior, I have no idea if what they did was allowed legally.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:41:46 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesThe hell with drinking and gambling. WTF were you doing driving?!?!?!?!?
If the situation were reversed, I would have said the exact same thing you just said. I cannot stand people that drink and drive. The only honest response I can provide is that I really wasn't fully aware of my situation. When people say they black out or don't remember things I never really believed them. It happened to me so now I do. If I were fully aware of what was going on, I wouldn't have driven at all. I would have just stayed there. Unfortunately, they don't have a hotel, it was somewhere around 3 am in the morning, I was utterly exhausted, probably had extremely low blood sugar and was extremely intoxicated. All of the cards were stacked against me - no pun intended.
I won't put myself in that situation ever again. That's the only thing I can do going forward.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
September 23rd, 2016 at 10:53:40 AM
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Quote: JoelDezeThe only honest response I can provide is that I really wasn't fully aware of my situation.
First, thanks for sharing your story. I do hope we all learn something from it. It was in this spirit that I posted about getting scammed, although it is embarrassing to admit it.
That said, I don't think being so rip-roaring drunk that you didn't make a conscience decision about driving is a piss-poor excuse. I think driving drunk is a 1,000 times greater sin than gambling drunk.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 23rd, 2016 at 11:01:48 AM
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Quote: WizardFirst, thanks for sharing your story. I do hope we all learn something from it. It was in this spirit that I posted about getting scammed, although it is embarrassing to admit it.
That said, I don't think being so rip-roaring drunk that you didn't make a conscience decision about driving is a piss-poor excuse. I think driving drunk is a 1,000 times greater sin than gambling drunk.
It is definitely not an excuse. There is no valid excuse for accepting responsibility of ones own actions. Had I not put myself in that situation, I would have never gotten drunk. I'm only providing as honest a response as I can as to why I drove drunk. The sober me would have never let the drunk me drive. Maybe that's a better response.
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This may be a better understanding as well. I don't remember getting my car from the valet or even getting into my car. I remember bits and pieces of seeing lots of lines on the road and trying to steer into the center. I honestly believe the part of my brain that was conscious was just on auto pilot having driven that route so many times. I don't remember setting my alarm off or passing out on the stairs. I remember the first 20 minutes going back to the table and then I remember the waitress thanking me once and then the rest is a blur.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM
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I didn't mean the casino putting something in your drink, I meant a bystander. Then once you were vulnerable they swoop in and steal some chips or money from you either descreatly or on your way to the cage or bathroom.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 11:07:56 AM
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Quote: mrsuit31I didn't mean the casino putting something in your drink, I meant a bystander. Then once you were vulnerable they swoop in and steal some chips or money from you either descreatly or on your way to the cage or bathroom.
They contacted me two days afterwards and didn't mention any foul play. I have no idea if they really looked at the tape or not. They could say they reviewed it and they may not have reviewed anything.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 11:31:13 AM
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Fyi Joeshlabotnik,Twin River is not an Indian casino.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 11:31:28 AM
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Quote: JoelDezeThey contacted me two days afterwards and didn't mention any foul play. I have no idea if they really looked at the tape or not. They could say they reviewed it and they may not have reviewed anything.
Understood. You could probably find out the signature amount with a little research and calls to the proper folks.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 1:05:39 PM
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Quote: JoelDezeIt is definitely not an excuse. There is no valid excuse for accepting responsibility of ones own actions. Had I not put myself in that situation, I would have never gotten drunk. I'm only providing as honest a response as I can as to why I drove drunk. The sober me would have never let the drunk me drive. Maybe that's a better response.
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This may be a better understanding as well. I don't remember getting my car from the valet or even getting into my car. I remember bits and pieces of seeing lots of lines on the road and trying to steer into the center. I honestly believe the part of my brain that was conscious was just on auto pilot having driven that route so many times. I don't remember setting my alarm off or passing out on the stairs. I remember the first 20 minutes going back to the table and then I remember the waitress thanking me once and then the rest is a blur.
When I made a 1000 mile drive in 1 day last month there were parts of the drive that I was the same way. There is probably 100 miles that I don't remember one bit. Although I wasn't drinking I was dead tired. Driving tired is just as dangerous as driving drunk.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 1:34:27 PM
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Quote:The do not ever do this thread
Never drive to Vegas if part of your drive is going to be through the Colorado mountains at night in the winter. This was before all the fancy info about road and weather conditions were instantly available. I was sober and scared to keep going and scared to stop.
In addition I managed to end up part of the time on a non-highway road going up a mountain with little to no guard rails. Snow, night, alone, invisible thousand foot drops to the right seperated by 6 feet of pavement.
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September 23rd, 2016 at 2:29:44 PM
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Didn't someone here wake up in their room with extra money in their pockets or something?
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Joel since you don't remember anything that night perhaps you were drugged, I'm going to assume the worst and suggest you have an anel exam done.
Now every time I see your name in a post I will feel sorry for you.
Let's look at the bright side , if you don't remember it, it didn't happen.
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Joel since you don't remember anything that night perhaps you were drugged, I'm going to assume the worst and suggest you have an anel exam done.
Now every time I see your name in a post I will feel sorry for you.
Let's look at the bright side , if you don't remember it, it didn't happen.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 23rd, 2016 at 6:04:52 PM
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Joel, man, you are a diabetic and you are drinking over a dozen glasses of wine??? I am no expert, but my old man was a diabetic, adult onset, decades ago. Drs. made it clear to him that only occasional, moderate alcohol use was OK, and they hoped he would avoid even that (this was so long ago that they told him, yes, he could continue smoking, it wouldn't make matters worse). No wonder you seemed so effed up. Your blood sugar was probably way out of wack.
I hope you'll double check with your dox about this! And this is aside from drinking and gambling, and driving while intoxicated.
On a related note, there's lots of things wrong with Hollywood Columbus, but I have heard from several cocktail servers that they are told constantly to err on the side of caution and not serve anyone who appears to have had too much. This isn't really a problem at Hollywood, since it takes so long to get a drink! And on the weekends, it's not unusual for LE to have sobriety checkpoints just down the street from the exits...
I hope you'll double check with your dox about this! And this is aside from drinking and gambling, and driving while intoxicated.
On a related note, there's lots of things wrong with Hollywood Columbus, but I have heard from several cocktail servers that they are told constantly to err on the side of caution and not serve anyone who appears to have had too much. This isn't really a problem at Hollywood, since it takes so long to get a drink! And on the weekends, it's not unusual for LE to have sobriety checkpoints just down the street from the exits...
September 24th, 2016 at 5:53:57 AM
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If anyone drugged your drink, it was some individual, I agree with that. But that really going on out there?
If you weren't drugged, have you ever gone into blackout before while drinking? I don't know about all that other stuff the "warning sign" people put out there, but if you sometimes blackout when drinking, you have to get help. That warning sign I buy into.
If you weren't drugged, have you ever gone into blackout before while drinking? I don't know about all that other stuff the "warning sign" people put out there, but if you sometimes blackout when drinking, you have to get help. That warning sign I buy into.
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September 24th, 2016 at 8:21:26 AM
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I know a guy tried to sue a casino when he got sober after losing over $300,000 while he was gambling really drunk . He said the casino should not have kept giving him drinks as he was already really intoxicated. He lost the lawsuit I think.
Update. It was $500,000 and here is the link.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/06/us/california-drunken-gambler-las-vegas-casino/
Update. It was $500,000 and here is the link.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/06/us/california-drunken-gambler-las-vegas-casino/
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September 24th, 2016 at 8:37:37 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfDidn't someone here wake up in their room with extra money in their pockets or something?
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Joel since you don't remember anything that night perhaps you were drugged, I'm going to assume the worst and suggest you have an anel exam done.
Now every time I see your name in a post I will feel sorry for you.
Let's look at the bright side , if you don't remember it, it didn't happen.
Leaving a $20 on the dresser would have been the decent thing to do.
September 24th, 2016 at 10:22:10 AM
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Quote: NathanI know a guy tried to sue a casino after losing over $300,000 while he was gambling really drunk. He said the casino should not have kept giving him drinks as he was already really intoxicated. He lost the lawsuit I think.
This is one area where I think the casinos could really do a better job, even though it may not be to their benefit to do so. While it would be difficult, if not impossible, to limit a player's drinking from casino to casino, there could at least be a barrier to over intoxication within an individual casino.
For example, casinos could make it necessary that a player card must be swiped each time a player obtains a beverage and that the player is limited to how many beverages that player may consume (whether free or paid for) on an hourly and/or daily basis. Granted, a different player could swipe and then give the obtained beverage to a player who is beyond his or her personal limit, but obviously, the casino would not be accountable for that happening.
While I do support personal responsibility, I do believe that measures should be enacted (within the realm of an individual casino and with respect to an individual player) to ensure that an individual player's drinking is somehow limited to as great an extent as is readily feasible.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
September 24th, 2016 at 10:25:31 AM
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Quote: Mission146This is one area where I think the casinos could really do a better job, even though it may not be to their benefit to do so. While it would be difficult, if not impossible, to limit a player's drinking from casino to casino, there could at least be a barrier to over intoxication within an individual casino.
For example, casinos could make it necessary that a player card must be swiped each time a player obtains a beverage and that the player is limited to how many beverages that player may consume (whether free or paid for) on an hourly and/or daily basis. Granted, a different player could swipe and then give the obtained beverage to a player who is beyond his or her personal limit, but obviously, the casino would not be accountable for that happening.
While I do support personal responsibility, I do believe that measures should be enacted (within the realm of an individual casino and with respect to an individual player) to ensure that an individual player's drinking is somehow limited to as great an extent as is readily feasible.
I wonder if the casino's stance was,"We shouldn't have to make a grown adult stop drinking alcohol as we are not his parents and he is not a child!"
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September 24th, 2016 at 12:25:59 PM
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That's basically what the stance is, yes. I also generally advocate that personal responsibility should fall upon the patron, but as far as the direct sale (or giving) of alcohol to a specific individual is concerned, I'm of the opinion that the enforcement of same would not be unduly onerous.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
September 24th, 2016 at 1:05:59 PM
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Quote: Mission146That's basically what the stance is, yes. I also generally advocate that personal responsibility should fall upon the patron, but as far as the direct sale (or giving) of alcohol to a specific individual is concerned, I'm of the opinion that the enforcement of same would not be unduly onerous.
Good point that he could have said,"No more drinks, as he should have been a more responsible adult with the consumption of his alcoholic drinks and not gotten drunk in the first place, though I HAVE read of horror stories where the casino intentionally gives way too much alcohol to an already drunk gambler hoping they lose their money doing very high and stupid drunken bets. After drinking 5 shots of Whiskey sour, Billy is pretty out of it drunk, but a Cocktail Waitress gives him 5 more shots "I'm going to bet $100,000 on Red 18. Black 12 comes up and drunken out of his mind Billy is out $100,000 in seconds. When he sobers up he files a lawsuit against the casino for getting him piled with more alcohol when he was already drunk which clouded his good judgement while gambling and loses his case because the casino reasons he should have said,"No more drinks!"
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September 24th, 2016 at 1:35:54 PM
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On the dashboard you mean.Quote: BozLeaving a $20 on the dresser would have been the decent thing to do.
I'm just more concerned with the fact you know the proper protocol for this type of thing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 24th, 2016 at 3:36:20 PM
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I have seen bottle service at the machines with multiple bottles finished.Quote: Mission146That's basically what the stance is, yes. I also generally advocate that personal responsibility should fall upon the patron, but as far as the direct sale (or giving) of alcohol to a specific individual is concerned, I'm of the opinion that the enforcement of same would not be unduly onerous.
I have seen situations where people were extremely drunk and could barely sit. I have seen where casino employees were actually helping customers insert money into the bill validators because they were so drunk the couldn't do it themselves. Once a older lady was so drunk she even leaned off her chair once. Management stood by to make sure no one took advantage of her that's because her purse was full of cash and it was clearly visible. They also Helped her retrieve money from her purse.
I have seen 2 people have seizures, one kid while drinking. BOTH were allowed to continue gambling soon after. The one kid who just turned 21 was allowed to keep drinking and gambling after just a few minutes he simply said he was ok. The other casino made the other guy(whom I knew well) sign something saying he was ok and that he refused medical treatment or something like that.
I seen people so drunk at the poker table where they are playing with both cards exposed taking 3 minutes to act calling with absolutely nothing while the floor is observing the situation letting it go on. The only admonishment was asking him to not slow down the game.
I was told by a former major LV strip property cocktail/bartender (she now works @ a casino near you mission) not to cut off customers as long as they can order it (Unless they get unruly).
Dan is always saying how card counters are breaking the RULES and AP's don't play clean etc etc. (Ambiguous rules we can't see.... NOT A LAW) He claims that the casinos for the most part are fair, ethical and law abiding.
If I understand correctly most every casino in LV breaks the LAW almost daily and even multiple times a day.
This is what I understand from the gaming regulations.
1) Regulations forbid anyone visibility intoxicated to participate in gambling activity.
2)They also forbid serving complimentary alcoholic beverages to a person in a gambling area who are visibly intoxicated.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 24th, 2016 at 5:56:44 PM
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First of all -- scary story. Glad no one got hurt.
The casino (or any place that serves alcohol) should absolutely be responsible to their patrons if they get absolutely sh**faced. Talk about responsibility? (Perhaps I'm wrong on this) but doesn't the law say things about serving alcohol to drunk people and allowing drunk people to gamble? Seems like anyone who's preaching "self responsibility" hasn't ever had a drink in their life.....or else they are very controlled with their drinking, not realizing what it's like to be drunk.
I don't know anything about diabetus, but it seems like you can go from pretty much sober to blacked out pretty quickly. Hell, I know even if I haven't eaten all day and have a few drinks at night, they can hit me a lot harder and quicker than what I'd normally expect.
The casino's POV is not "we aren't their mother and he's a grown adult he can make his own choices", but "keep serving him alcohol if he has money, if he needs help finding the bathroom or the ATM or the cage for a cash advance we'll help him..but mostly keep serving him alcohol".
I think Romes said in his GWAE interview thing at El Cortez he said he didn't want anymore beers but the cocktail waitress kept bringing them. Speaking of which where's Romes been?
The casino (or any place that serves alcohol) should absolutely be responsible to their patrons if they get absolutely sh**faced. Talk about responsibility? (Perhaps I'm wrong on this) but doesn't the law say things about serving alcohol to drunk people and allowing drunk people to gamble? Seems like anyone who's preaching "self responsibility" hasn't ever had a drink in their life.....or else they are very controlled with their drinking, not realizing what it's like to be drunk.
I don't know anything about diabetus, but it seems like you can go from pretty much sober to blacked out pretty quickly. Hell, I know even if I haven't eaten all day and have a few drinks at night, they can hit me a lot harder and quicker than what I'd normally expect.
The casino's POV is not "we aren't their mother and he's a grown adult he can make his own choices", but "keep serving him alcohol if he has money, if he needs help finding the bathroom or the ATM or the cage for a cash advance we'll help him..but mostly keep serving him alcohol".
I think Romes said in his GWAE interview thing at El Cortez he said he didn't want anymore beers but the cocktail waitress kept bringing them. Speaking of which where's Romes been?
September 24th, 2016 at 6:20:16 PM
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There is one huge deterrent here in OH that patrons absolutely hate...but it works! Under law, in OH, there are NO complimentary drinks. Gamblers must pay for their booze like everyone else. That and slow service seems to do the trick for the most part...
September 24th, 2016 at 6:20:59 PM
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Twin River is in Rhode Island, yeah? Someone should look up the Rhode Island laws regarding overservice and allowing intoxicated persons to gamble.
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September 25th, 2016 at 11:22:55 AM
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Don't know but I'm not sure why we didn't ask the Wizard to bet the cooperation money this week? Why wait until Romes comes to bet and hope it's actually a good week for the 1/2's.Quote: RSFirst of all -- scary story. Glad no one got hurt.
The casino (or any place that serves alcohol) should absolutely be responsible to their patrons if they get absolutely sh**faced. Talk about responsibility? (Perhaps I'm wrong on this) but doesn't the law say things about serving alcohol to drunk people and allowing drunk people to gamble? Seems like anyone who's preaching "self responsibility" hasn't ever had a drink in their life.....or else they are very controlled with their drinking, not realizing what it's like to be drunk.
I don't know anything about diabetus, but it seems like you can go from pretty much sober to blacked out pretty quickly. Hell, I know even if I haven't eaten all day and have a few drinks at night, they can hit me a lot harder and quicker than what I'd normally expect.
The casino's POV is not "we aren't their mother and he's a grown adult he can make his own choices", but "keep serving him alcohol if he has money, if he needs help finding the bathroom or the ATM or the cage for a cash advance we'll help him..but mostly keep serving him alcohol".
I think Romes said in his GWAE interview thing at El Cortez he said he didn't want anymore beers but the cocktail waitress kept bringing them. Speaking of which where's Romes been?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 25th, 2016 at 1:40:48 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfDon't know but I'm not sure why we didn't ask the Wizard to bet the cooperation money this week? Why wait until Romes comes to bet and hope it's actually a good week for the 1/2's.
Good thing we didnt. Already have 1 loser.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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September 25th, 2016 at 2:18:14 PM
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The gods are watching over the team ( not to be construed as a 'Romes' endorsement ).Quote: GWAEGood thing we didnt. Already have 1 loser.
But back to Joel. Situation not that unusual.
I have come home with my bankroll gone, set-off the alarm, been drinking.
But I slept in the car, didn't know I set off the alarm, just that I couldn't get the key to work in the damn lock ;-)
And I don't have diabetes to use as an excuse....
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
September 25th, 2016 at 5:49:11 PM
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Quote: TwoFeathersATLI couldn't get the key to work in the damn lock
that's when you know the little lady has had enough!
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September 25th, 2016 at 7:08:06 PM
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Having a responsible designated driver who holds your money for you and sporadically gives you money to gamble and drink and later refuses to give you any more money and tells you "No more drinks and no more bets. You came in with $40,000. You are already down $10,000. Take the remaining $30,000 home and use it for responsible things," can work wonders in many cases.
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September 25th, 2016 at 7:32:06 PM
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Hmmm Im not sure, It seems as if we have a bunch of winners this week. As do a few others that bet stuff like this. There's also different combos so we could be on a few different games and had some good middleing hedge opportunities.Quote: GWAEGood thing we didnt. Already have 1 loser.
I honestly think this was the week to do it. Mike or someone could have easily done it this week.
Remember is not if you win or lose...
Who am I kidding, of course it matters if you win or lose.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 10th, 2016 at 1:55:14 AM
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The guy who lost all that money while playing drunk and then tried to sue the casino is just bitter. He didn't have to keep drinking. He is an adult, so it's his own fault he was betting while intoxicated. In most courthouses, he would have lost the lawsuit. The only time he would actually win the case is if they could prove the casino drugged his drink which can lead to making really irrational bets, but just for him plain playing drunk? No, he would lose his case most of the time.
Really, dude, you tried to buy a flat screen TV for only $3.99? Get out of here, you scam, con arist!
October 15th, 2016 at 7:39:00 PM
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I would say, I'd never take insurance in BJ.
October 15th, 2016 at 8:36:50 PM
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Why/ insurance is plus ev at times
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