Wino
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September 7th, 2016 at 1:27:33 PM permalink
What are the consequences imposed by Casinos in the rules, in your experience, about looking at your hand to your left before looking at and playing out your hand to your right? Anything other than a warning from the dealer?
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Romes
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September 7th, 2016 at 1:40:39 PM permalink
You'll get a warning or two from the dealer. Then the dealer will report you to the pit who will tell you to stop. If you keep doing it then they'll probably ask you to stop playing or throw you out.

There really isn't an edge obtained from looking at your other hand first. What if a ploppy was to your left and showed you his cards when he picked them up? Would it really make big playing changes to your hand?

edit: I believe if the dealer has an ace up you're allowed to look at both, because you could take even money if you have a BJ on your left hand.
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Greasyjohn
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September 7th, 2016 at 2:43:00 PM permalink
Yes, you can always look at all your hands at the table if the dealer has an ace up, not only to take even money but just to have the option to take insurance.

At every table that I've ever played at, when you play two hands, the dealer will deal the second hand so that the cards are positioned on the dealer-side of your bet in a pitch game. This clues the player that they can't view the second hand before playing the first hand. I've also seen players peek under their double down card on the first hand, to gain more information, before playing their second hand. I don't normally do this as it's more of a giveaway that you might be counting. What you can do when doubling down on your first hand is to say to the dealer "show me" as you place your double down bet. Most dealers well flash the double down card to you before they tuck it under your wager sideways.

And I never look at my second hand before playing my first; it is a definite no-no. Dealers will rebuke you immediately. I've never seen a player that did not shape up immediately after being told once.
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Wino
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September 9th, 2016 at 3:50:24 PM permalink
Warnings and *possibly "thrown out." At the end of the day, is it written that it is legal or not legal. I do see new Double Deck players do it from time to time without any rebuke whatsoever; a gentle reminder, then another gentle reminder, then a 3rd gentle reminder at my local store. What if someone had the attitude, that they couldn't give less of a f***?
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Greasyjohn
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September 10th, 2016 at 10:20:44 AM permalink
I guess it's like the rule in a pitch game: One hand on the cards.

I have seen plenty of casinos that are a little lax about this rule; mostly smaller casinos--espically when the player that uses two hands is a newbie. But I have not seen any casinos that do not enforce the "play the first hand before you look at the second hand" rule. In a DD game the information from just two cards (the second hand) could influence how a player plays on borderline count decisions. And remember, the dealer offsets the placement of the second hand (to a player playing two hands) for exactly the reason that the second hand is not to be looked at before the first hand is over. The casinos are not going to tell you more than once about this rule.
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RS
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September 10th, 2016 at 12:48:15 PM permalink
You'll probably just keep getting warned.
I saw a dealer get so pissed off at a player (for looking at their second hand), he pushed back the player's second bet, then dealt the player only one hand. Lol.

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