Saw a copy of beyond counting on eBay
April 30th, 2016 at 5:02:12 PM
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Buy it now price is $795.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:24:35 PM
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Quote: BerglasBuy it now price is $795.
You created an account just to tell us that? You wouldn't happen to be the seller would you? ;)
April 30th, 2016 at 6:26:13 PM
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Here is the auction if anyone cares: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Counting-By-James-Grosjean-Very-Rare-/291740199302?hash=item43ed122986:g:jUIAAOSw1DtXE4zn. My opinion is $795 is too high.
I sold an extra copy in this thread. $400 was the max bid.
I sold an extra copy in this thread. $400 was the max bid.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
April 30th, 2016 at 6:33:59 PM
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That's a beautiful rug.
I always imagined Beyond Counting was a much thicker book, perhaps 8.5"x11"x2.5".
I always imagined Beyond Counting was a much thicker book, perhaps 8.5"x11"x2.5".
April 30th, 2016 at 6:59:15 PM
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Way overpriced considering all the info that has become available since it was originally published.
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April 30th, 2016 at 7:26:48 PM
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Another one bites the dust.Quote: Zcore13Way overpriced considering all the info that has become available since it was originally published.
So much bullshit; so little time!
May 2nd, 2016 at 8:51:08 AM
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Ya know, I keep seeing everyone saying this... And with regards to BJ I'd say "some" of the book info has been more publicized... but from my readings there's a lot left in that book that I found no where else outside of that book. Plus, it's so cryptographic that what is in the book is hard to pull out, even for experienced readers. I had to re-read some things a couple times to make sure I was understanding them correctly.Quote: Zcore13Way overpriced considering all the info that has become available since it was originally published.
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May 2nd, 2016 at 8:57:10 AM
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With auctions on EBay etc, why hasn't the book been released again, a new printing. I'm missing something but don't know what it is.....
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 2nd, 2016 at 9:24:14 AM
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I believe he didn't want the information in the book too easily available to casinos.Quote: TwoFeathersATLWith auctions on EBay etc, why hasn't the book been released again, a new printing. I'm missing something but don't know what it is.....
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 2nd, 2016 at 9:29:31 AM
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Quote: RomesI believe he didn't want the information in the book too easily available to casinos.
I know of one pit that has CAA in it.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
May 2nd, 2016 at 9:31:30 AM
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Quote: RomesI believe he didn't want the information in the book too easily available to casinos.
I think I saw this somewhere myself. But wouldn't it be impossible to do? Not everyone who purchased the book could be counted on by a vow to be drawn and quartered if their copy got into a casino's hands. The books would have to be held in a vault. Once the horse is out of the barn "it's all over, baby."
May 2nd, 2016 at 9:44:37 AM
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Beyond counting was sold to the general public. Exhibit CAA the buyers were screened.Anyone with ties to the casino side had their money refunded. Obviously some casino people were still able to get copies.
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May 2nd, 2016 at 10:21:15 AM
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One of 10,000 casinos, in 1 pit, and since the info is a bit cryptographic how much do they really understand?Quote: IbeatyouracesI know of one pit that has CAA in it.
That's kinda like saying "Max Rubin works for the Barona, thus all casinos know everything about card counting."
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 2nd, 2016 at 10:24:30 AM
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Quote: RomesOne of 10,000 casinos, in 1 pit, and since the info is a bit cryptographic how much do they really understand?
That's kinda like saying "Max Rubin works for the Barona, thus all casinos know everything about card counting."
Let's just say this place is on lockdown. Casinos are not as stupid as they used to be.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
May 2nd, 2016 at 10:25:48 AM
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Well, yes... kind of. Back in the day a casino that "got it" was very very rare... Now they're just rare... so we've lost 2 "very's" over the years, but it's still rare =P.Quote: IbeatyouracesLet's just say this place is on lockdown. Casinos are not as stupid as they used to be.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 2nd, 2016 at 10:25:53 AM
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Sorry Sir,Quote: RomesI believe he didn't want the information in the book too easily available to casinos.
Sir Romes. I cannot believe that explanation. The casinos are dealing with hundreds of mills frequently, many of them. 1K, 10K, even 100K is often a simple business expense. 'Do we replace these lousy bed sheets with these better bed sheets'? It will cost $25/room times 1000 rooms even accounting for the supervision to get it done right, hopefully. Add another 10% for our oversight of the people we should have hired so we didn't need this particular oversight.
I still don't understand, not an uncommon situation I admit.
Perhaps someone else could venture a guess? Romes is allowed as many guesses as he can postulate..
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 2nd, 2016 at 10:27:08 AM
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I wasn't postulating as to the price, but as to why he didn't print more. This is just my guess, but I don't think he wanted to put more in circulation?
You used to have someone else vouch for you to even get a copy of the book.
You used to have someone else vouch for you to even get a copy of the book.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 2nd, 2016 at 10:30:16 AM
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Caa only had 400 copies printed.
Happy days are here again
May 2nd, 2016 at 11:07:19 AM
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Does that mean back in the day, And I can talk forever/almost about back in the day? Does that mean you had to get one Internet handle to vouch for your other Internet handle? Or did you actuararily need 3 ;-?Quote: RomesI wasn't postulating as to the price, but as to why he didn't print more. This is just my guess, but I don't think he wanted to put more in circulation?
You used to have someone else vouch for you to even get a copy of the book.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 3rd, 2016 at 6:42:38 AM
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Had to be someone 'in good standing' to vouch, I believe =).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 3rd, 2016 at 6:46:30 AM
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That may explain why I don't own a copy then ;-)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 3rd, 2016 at 7:40:19 AM
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Maybe darkoz could tell us everything that it says
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