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February 16th, 2016 at 4:57:04 PM permalink
Now for something completely different. For fun, I created a web page that displays some of the current data related to blackjack rules in chart form. Basically, to show the current state of the game in the U.S. See https://www.qfit.com/maps.htm . I plan to keep this updated on a monthly basis to show what casinos are doing to players.
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February 16th, 2016 at 6:05:10 PM permalink
Good stuff, Norm. Thanks.
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February 16th, 2016 at 6:10:16 PM permalink
Thanks Norm it's great. Just shows you how bad Nevada blackjack really is.
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February 16th, 2016 at 7:03:52 PM permalink
Quote: QFIT

Now for something completely different. For fun, I created a web page that displays some of the current data related to blackjack rules in chart form. Basically, to show the current state of the game in the U.S. See https://www.qfit.com/maps.htm . I plan to keep this updated on a monthly basis to show what casinos are doing to players.



Nice job, Norm! The better informed players are the better off they are and this will no doubt be useful to many players.

Only thing I would caution and am sure you know this Norm, but others may not is that the data in CBJN is not all updated monthly. Las Vegas is, with paid reporters and some of the other bigger areas are but some of the smaller states and areas are not serviced by monthly reporters and some are updated much less frequently. It is important for players to do their homework and this is yet another tool that will help.



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Thanks Norm it's great. Just shows you how bad Nevada blackjack really is.



Yes and No to "really bad Nevada blackjack". Nevada Blackjack dominated by Las Vegas is just so much bigger, so many more tables and opportunities than other places that you are going to see larger numbers of 6:5 tables, which in turn is going to 'inflate' the average house edge, BUT there are also more....what I call "playable" games that other places (playable is of course subjective). And even more important is these playable games are in close proximity, much more so that any other place. THAT is the real strength of Las Vegas.

The really bad games....the 6:5 that gives Vegas such a bad name and inflates the average house edge is mostly limited to one area....The strip. I know for tourist, the strip IS Las Vegas, but for those that play serious blackjack the strip is one small part of Vegas. There is so much more to Vegas, so many more opportunities than the strip. Most of us that are based here, visit the strip fairly infrequently compared to other areas. :/
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February 17th, 2016 at 6:51:14 AM permalink
Very cool, but that b&w 'cloud' makes it hard to read.

I assume you used PhotoShop to generate the clouds. Change the black to light blue and keep hitting the Generate Clouds function. You get some very nice, realistic, skies.
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February 17th, 2016 at 6:53:13 AM permalink
It's a purchased photograph.
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February 17th, 2016 at 6:53:55 AM permalink
Very cool Norm, thanks!

What was your most interesting/disappointing/etc metric?
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February 17th, 2016 at 10:11:05 AM permalink
Well, it's no surprise that rules are not great. The average edge in Nevada is quite disappointing. H17 has few bright spots. Pennsylvania is S17; but that is law and the casinos recently tried to change that law. I thought about adding penetration. But, average pen over multiple numbers of decks is not too meaningful. I may add some additional detail charts. Charts over time would be more interesting.
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February 17th, 2016 at 12:51:13 PM permalink
Quote: QFIT

Well, it's no surprise that rules are not great. The average edge in Nevada is quite disappointing. H17 has few bright spots. Pennsylvania is S17; but that is law and the casinos recently tried to change that law. I thought about adding penetration. But, average pen over multiple numbers of decks is not too meaningful. I may add some additional detail charts. Charts over time would be more interesting.

You go girl!
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February 17th, 2016 at 1:40:38 PM permalink
I hope your maps catch on!
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February 17th, 2016 at 4:55:50 PM permalink
The great state of Georgia shows it has one casino, but some of the the other buttons show zero ( more correct). A beautiful attempt, but falls a little short of reality, good info where it is correct though. No casinos in GA that I am aware of, have I missed something? The map/graph shows = 1. Can you give me directions? I can't get there all by myself, and that might be + EV with comps included....

I don't want to go down in history as being "the sarcastic one", but the map/interface didn't work for me. Now I know not what to think about other states. Just saying....
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February 17th, 2016 at 5:02:20 PM permalink
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The great state of Georgia shows it has one casino, but some of the the other buttons show zero ( more correct). A beautiful attempt, but falls a little short of reality, good info where it is correct though. No casinos in GA that I am aware of, have I missed something? The map/graph shows = 1. Can you give me directions? I can't get there all by myself, and that might be + EV with comps included....

I don't want to go down in history as being "the sarcastic one", but the map/interface didn't work for me. Now I know not what to think about other states. Just saying....



For directions, see: http://www.emeraldprincesscasino.com/

Ships that travel three miles to international waters to avoid state laws are placed in the state of their port. Georgia is not the only state where this occurs.
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February 18th, 2016 at 2:58:46 PM permalink
K U D O S to Norm !

Great Posting !

Please link this to BlackjackTheForum.com
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February 18th, 2016 at 3:17:39 PM permalink
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Please link this to BlackjackTheForum.com



Please DON'T.
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February 18th, 2016 at 3:30:38 PM permalink
That's it. I'll no longer post here. I'll look back in another ten years.

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February 28th, 2016 at 1:48:18 PM permalink
Quote: QFIT

That's it. I'll no longer post here. I'll look back in another ten years.

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What a thin skin
He's gone for 10 years :-)
What an absurd statement. If you want to leave, just leave
good riddance
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February 28th, 2016 at 4:48:51 PM permalink
More charts: Two drill down pie charts have been added. The first breaks down the tables into number of decks, or CSM or BJ6:5. The second breaks down the tables into the common 16 rules sets. Click on a state in the map, and the first pie chart will breakdown the tables for that state only. Click on a slice in that pie, and the second pie will display the rule sets just for that slice. I plan to keep all charts up to date. If all works well, next update will be this week. I have also received some past data from the Z-Man and hope to add time series. As usual, this will be free and ad-free.

Note: The page location has been changed to https://qfit.com/maps.shtml to allow automatic updates.
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February 28th, 2016 at 5:23:21 PM permalink
OMG
Its 2026
I stepped into a time machine
Welcome back QFIT :-)
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March 3rd, 2016 at 6:32:17 PM permalink
Good post - thanks for the info.
I take a yearly trip to Vegas and just returned. It's sad how much blackjack conditions have deteriorated just over the past few years. There were multiple times this trip, that everyone I was with had a decent amount of cash in their pockets, ready to gamble, but couldn't due to 6:5 or only one or two 3:2 tables open.

Maryland is a lot closer than Vegas to me, and state law mandates the blackjack rules be fair and the same statewide. Sounds like Nevada may need to look into that.

On a side note - the food was better this year than ever. Check out the view from lago inside Bellagio - great meal.
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March 5th, 2016 at 1:22:50 AM permalink
Quote: QFIT

For directions, see: http://www.emeraldprincesscasino.com/

Ships that travel three miles to international waters to avoid state laws are placed in the state of their port. Georgia is not the only state where this occurs.



I did not know that a casino cruise ship ported on Jekyll Island and also thought the indication of a casino in GA was an error. Now I feel like I missed out when I was there! ;-)
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March 5th, 2016 at 5:19:08 AM permalink
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I did not know that a casino cruise ship ported on Jekyll Island and also thought the indication of a casino in GA was an error. Now I feel like I missed out when I was there! ;-)

I did not know either. I definately have missed out. I knew JAX, Cocoa, and Myrtle Beach, but not Jekyll.

Nice catch on the Claridge Hotel logo ;-)
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