Casual Player Question

I'm Richard. I never have been a gambler. I'm an over the road truck driver currently. I have been studying roulette and always enjoy but stink at blackjack. I was curious how properly using a strategy card but combining it with martindale betting but capping the martindale at about $80 beginning at the $5 mark would play out over about 5 hours in a casino beginning with a $640 available balance. I think it will be fun and potentially success on a short run even if it bites the long run. I called the casino in altoona, is and they said they allow and will even provide a blackjack strategy card, but I wanted advise first. I can't count cards so it should be a fair but fun challenge.

Roulette is my favorite game. It's how I even learned of martindale but didn't know it was called that till about a week ago.

Richard

Should be fun and I wish you success. The martingale (correct spelling) is ill-advised but as long as you know what you are getting into it could be enjoyable.

I suppose if you like progression the marty could be fun for some, but I doubt if I would find it so, since I instinctively like to press when I am winning instead of losing ... pressing when losing just to get back to square one? I dunno. Not for me.

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I'm Richard. I never have been a gambler. I'm an over the road truck driver currently. I have been studying roulette and always enjoy but stink at blackjack. I was curious how properly using a strategy card but combining it with martindale betting but capping the martindale at about $80 beginning at the $5 mark would play out over about 5 hours in a casino beginning with a $640 available balance. I think it will be fun and potentially success on a short run even if it bites the long run. I called the casino in altoona, is and they said they allow and will even provide a blackjack strategy card, but I wanted advise first. I can't count cards so it should be a fair but fun challenge.

Roulette is my favorite game. It's how I even learned of martindale but didn't know it was called that till about a week ago.

Richard

Hi Richard and welcome to the forum.
First off, forget all about roulette. It has a high house edge, and the way it is usually played is a fastrack to oblivion.
As a casual gambler you should be looking for max playing pleasure for your dollar. Max playing pleasure implies max time in play with some exciting rounds and some possibility of coming out ahead, or at least taking a roller coaster ride with your bankroll.
Martingale, or Marty as I prefer to call it is a fun and exciting way of losing your money, usually fairly quickly. Not recommended by anyone here, especially for longevity of play or for fun value. It can lead to a quick, but small profit, e.g turning your $640 into $700 in very few hands or rounds of play. But that isn't really fun.
See it debunked here as a winning system. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/21359-debunking-roulette-marty-with-pictures/

If I were you, and assuming you can afford that $640 as an entertainment expense, I'd recommend the following:-
Learn the Wizards Simple Blackjack Strategy. Find a busy low stakes table. Buy in for $100 and play minimum stakes of maybe $5 or $10 for a while to get the feel of it. Enjoy the atmosphere and chat with the dealer and other players. A busy table is a slow table, so you will lose slower. Also, there's more fun interactions than you get in roulette. If you find your $100 reaches maybe $170, then by all means mess about with marty as 5, 10, 20, reset, with the objective of reaching that imaginary $200 target. For any chance of a long playing session, keep each wager at less than 5% of what you bring to the table. That should be fun for a few hours. If you double your money, treat yourself to something.

Roulette, Blackjack, pretty much all casino games are just ways of handing your money over. Accept that, and just find the best fun way of doing it.

Martingale can go horribly wrong in blackjack. What happens when you have your max ($80) out there and you've got to split a couple of times and double down? You don't want to put yourself in a situation where variance tells you to do the opposite of your strategy card.

Out of an abundance of caution, I'd recommend you stop at $40, but it's your money. I do not know how much you value $640, as in how much you expect to have after your gambling. Session variance is something that only you can feel out for yourself.

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Martingale can go horribly wrong in blackjack.

Absolutely agree. If Martying, you have to be able and prepared to double and split as Basic Strategy dictates. Personally, I'd only Marty progress the base bet, though even that is only for fun.

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Out of an abundance of caution, I'd recommend you stop at $40, but it's your money.

Yes, or maybe 5% or 10% of remaining bankroll

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Session variance is something that only you can feel out for yourself.

Variance is where the adrenalin rushes from $:o)

Thanks guys, and sorry for the occasional misspelling. LOL You guiño autocorrect can be a pain, try bilingual autocorrect.

Anyway, o agree with a $40 max cap off. I found a simulator on google play. $1000 Bank was an awesome run once and a disaster on another. $500 starting bankrolls were the most fun overall and a comfort zone. I haven't tried strategy cards so it was new like having an advisor for every bet. However sometimes instinct and pure dumb luck were the best solution. The AIM doesn't seem to like splitting 9's and sometime likes standing on 12-15. I do that occasionally but usually just when o have a bad Hot feeling about taking a hit.

As for loosing, i have always had a personal rule never to expect to walk out of a casino with any money I enter with. Next if I make $100 over what i bring i typically assk Hot a chip and pocket it or set it aside.lastly u learned not to forget my cigarettes. LOL hard to pay proper attention when up $800, on a roll and dealing wifi a 3 hour old nicotine fit like last time. I am extremely lucky in nearly everything u do in life, but my biggest downfall in a casino is not knowing when to walk away. I used to go to the metro whenever u could with $100 and either loose it in the first hour, ballenera twice u think, or make my $100 chip and pocket it then sip jaco and coke all night. LOL after about 4 hours or so o believe they always conveniently forget the coke. I staggered out to pass out in the back seat of my car a couple times. Everyone used to think me a happy looser walking out after returning all u won but never realized my only goals were drink and play roulette all night and hopefully wake up with a $100 chip in my pocket. Usually accomplished my goal so h always considered myself a winner.

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Thanks guys, and sorry for the occasional misspelling. LOL You guiño autocorrect can be a pain,

Are you typing while truck driving or maybe dictating while gargling?

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. . . However sometimes instinct and pure dumb luck were the best solution.

Don't do it dude.

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The AIM doesn't seem to like splitting 9's.

AIM??? Wassat?

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... Garbled stuff...Everyone used to think me a happy looser walking out after returning all u won but never realized my only goals were drink and play roulette all night and hopefully wake up with a $100 chip in my pocket.

Not a bad goal, but you seem to want to make losing likely, playing hunches and drinking and playing roulette.

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Are you typing while truck driving or maybe dictating while gargling?

Don't do it dude.

AIM??? Wassat?

Not a bad goal, but you seem to want to make losing likely, playing hunches and drinking and playing roulette.

Admittedly TreeGuy is a challenging read.
However, a goal of walking in with $100, playing hard, drinking hard, having some fun, only to wake up tomorrow with a black in your pocket and a small hangover? Methodology might could be tweaked but I've heard goals that were worse. BC powders are cheap.....;-)