kewlj
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April 30th, 2015 at 11:02:09 AM permalink
Quote: Donuts

Regardless of if you're playing rated or not, some casinos have rules on spreading/betting mins.

Quite a few casinos will only allow you to move to a maximum of three spots and put lower limits on bets if you spread beyond one spot.

Many times to play two spots you need to be playing 2x table minimum on both spots, and for three spots its 5x on each circle. It varies by casino, some have no restrictions at all.



I have a few places in my regular rotation that have this requirement. There is good and bad in this scenario. On the one hand, it's built in cover. :) How can they evaluate your play, as far as moving money with the count, when their own rules require you to do so? :/

On the flip side, Las Vegas, more than many other places, is very sensitive about spreading horizontally (to multiple hands). Most places in Vegas, view this as much more of a "tell' than other locations do and will often initiate a skill check right at that point.
Donuts
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April 30th, 2015 at 11:43:07 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj


On the flip side, Las Vegas, more than many other places, is very sensitive about spreading horizontally (to multiple hands). Most places in Vegas, view this as much more of a "tell' than other locations do and will often initiate a skill check right at that point.



You're way more experienced than I am and play at higher stakes, but at the $25 they don't seem to care when you go to 2-3 hands (anecdotal). All of the times me and my partner have been backed off we weren't spreading aggressively. Meanwhile, at other properties, we'd depth charge a double deck game with three hands of 5 units for hours and never get a second glance.
arcticfun
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May 1st, 2015 at 5:21:45 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

On the flip side, Las Vegas, more than many other places, is very sensitive about spreading horizontally (to multiple hands). Most places in Vegas, view this as much more of a "tell' than other locations do and will often initiate a skill check right at that point.



I cannot emphasize enough how IMPORTANT this point is. I got flat-betted at Aria because of ONLY this behavior. (PS - pm me if you want to know why I think so; no use hijacking the thread "derp you probably had heat on you that you didn't know about....")
stabworld
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May 2nd, 2015 at 7:10:49 AM permalink
mcallister3200 - where can I buy a copy of current blackjack news? and what exactly is it? a weekly - biweekly publishing or newspaper? thanks..
stabworld
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May 2nd, 2015 at 7:36:27 AM permalink
Is the el cortez game really watched that closely? Getting backed off for spreading 1-2, seems like its not even worth playing if the heat is that bad.
GWAE
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May 2nd, 2015 at 7:48:40 AM permalink
Wholly crappy 1-30 spread, good luck.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed. I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
Donuts
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May 2nd, 2015 at 8:32:12 AM permalink
I've heard stories of people getting backed off for winning. They weren't counting.

El Cortez is literally the Amazon Rainforest in January when it comes to sweat.
stabworld
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May 2nd, 2015 at 9:20:51 AM permalink
Is the el cortez game no mid shoe? if not, I would just back count then come in on a positive count and bet huge..it wouldnt look so suspicious cause theres no spread.
GreenChipBaron
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May 2nd, 2015 at 12:51:15 PM permalink
They also ban people for looking at their tables funny. Not even kidding. You're not wonging into an El cortez single deck game.
vendman1
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May 2nd, 2015 at 1:16:46 PM permalink
I could be wrong I'm an east coaster. But the el co single deck game has a rep in the counting community as the sweatiest game around.

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