Hobius
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:03:01 PM permalink
Playing 21 last night and stood on a hard 17. Dealer turns cards and also has a hard 17. I decide I want to increase my bet for the next hand so I add $5 to my bet prior to the dealer clearing my cards (which was a push). So there was no intent on my part to cap I was just premature on the bet. No one in the floor said anything, but I was curious did I commit a major faux pas?
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:09:13 PM permalink
You should wait until the cards are cleared or you may attract unwanted attention and perhaps a light censure but if the hand was a push I can't imagine it being a big deal.
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Hobius
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:13:52 PM permalink
Thanks. I feel kind of weirdly bad about it. I played another 20 minutes wondering if I should confess to the floor, but I decided against it.
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:46:36 PM permalink
Quote: Hobius

Playing 21 last night and stood on a hard 17. Dealer turns cards and also has a hard 17. I decide I want to increase my bet for the next hand so I add $5 to my bet prior to the dealer clearing my cards (which was a push). So there was no intent on my part to cap I was just premature on the bet. No one in the floor said anything, but I was curious did I commit a major faux pas?



Nothing was done wrong there. As soon as the dealer bangs or taps the table indicating a push you can adjust your bet for the next round.
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April 26th, 2015 at 8:39:28 PM permalink
I've done it before by mistake but I immediately told the dealer. In my case I had a winning hand.I also was doing 4× raises on Mississippi stud for about 20mins before I realized it. I had been playing Ultimate Texas holdem all night and was very tired. The dealer never noticed. I said nothing and started doing the correct 3x raise for the rest of the day.
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Hobius
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April 27th, 2015 at 1:52:41 AM permalink
Technically I made the bet pre-table knock when dealer was paying 3rd base (I was on 1st). Regardless it sounds like something that just happens, and I probably won't be 86'd or otherwise be in trouble.
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April 27th, 2015 at 2:10:12 AM permalink
Probably won't get in trouble, but if they see it they'll definitely let you know not to do it again.

After all, there's a chance you think you have 17 but you really had an 18...now it looks like you're trying to cheat. Imagine if it was the other way around and you actually lost, would you have said "I thought I had 17 and I increase my bet can I get $5 back?" After all, your hand isn't a push/loss/win until the dealer gets to your spot and takes/pays/pushes your bets.
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April 27th, 2015 at 2:29:59 AM permalink
Yeah, I still feel dumb about it, but it is probably time to move on. No one said anything, and was definitely the only time I have ever done that.
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April 27th, 2015 at 8:55:10 AM permalink
If you had told a floor person about it, they'd tell you not to do it again. They might even tell you the reasons already mentioned.

But they'd also shrug it off since it was a push.
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April 27th, 2015 at 9:47:57 AM permalink
I did this same thing earlier this year. I was just on autopilot. I had 19 and as soon as the dealer showed 19 I increased my bet. The suit was right there and he mentioned something about it, but not admonishing me. He realized it was a push too.

No reason to tell the floor about it if they didn't notice.
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April 27th, 2015 at 9:57:19 AM permalink
I guess I don't need to worry about them tracking me down for a harshly worded lecture then. Glad to hear I am not the only one.

Makes me wonder how many dumb things go on during a busy, drunken Saturday night. There has to be a lot of innocent mistakes.
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April 27th, 2015 at 11:11:54 AM permalink
Quote: Hobius

I guess I don't need to worry about them tracking me down for a harshly worded lecture then. Glad to hear I am not the only one.

Makes me wonder how many dumb things go on during a busy, drunken Saturday night. There has to be a lot of innocent mistakes.



You said it yourself, there was no intent to do wrong on your part. Any reasonable person could see that. Of course, not everyone is reasonable be it in a casino, on a forum or in life. Most understand that this is a very monotonous game. There's no reason to worry or feel dumb.

How about doubles and splits? The player has been losing and decides to put up a large bet and wins. In his excitement he starts taking his chips before he gets paid. Yikes!
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April 27th, 2015 at 11:16:55 AM permalink
Quote: Hobius

I guess I don't need to worry about them tracking me down for a harshly worded lecture then. Glad to hear I am not the only one.

Makes me wonder how many dumb things go on during a busy, drunken Saturday night. There has to be a lot of innocent mistakes.



I have no idea how many times I've done it, because nobody ever said a thing (except for the time I mentioned).

Another reason to not bring it up to the pit is because they're cynical by the nature of their job. They'll hear what you're saying and they'll think about what angle you might be getting at. If you admit you increased your bet on a push before the cards were picked up, and then you did the same thing when you had a losing hand, and then, if caught, say, "I told you I do this by mistake when I have a push, and I just thought I had a push" then it looks like you were setting them up. Capish?

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April 27th, 2015 at 11:30:35 AM permalink
Accidents happen, and no harm was done. Just be mindful of it in the future, and you'll be fine.
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April 28th, 2015 at 11:50:41 AM permalink
I have done this before on occasion - generally when I am tired or had too much to drink - no one has ever gotten really upset and I always get pissed at myself for doing something stupid.
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