Wanderer
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August 23rd, 2014 at 6:19:42 AM permalink
Basic Strategy says hit all of these combinations. But what (if any) index plays do you folks use on 15-16 vs. 7-10 and 2 vs. 2-3? The Illustrious 18 says:

1. Stand on 16 vs. 10 if the TC is even. (What about 7-9?)

2. Stand on 15 vs. 10 if the TC is +4. (What about 7-9?)

3. Stand on 12 vs. 2 if the TC is +3.

4. Stand on 12 vs. 3 if the TC is +2.

Is this how you folks like to play these infamous scenarios?
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August 23rd, 2014 at 6:35:41 AM permalink
Yes, those are the proper plays (for H17 games)....although, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking.

16v7 : 9
16v8 : 7
16v9 : 5
15v7 : 10
15v8 : 10
15v9 : 8


The only one there that is illustrious 18 is 16v9. The rest of them are non-Ill18 indices that I got from Norm's CVCX.
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August 23rd, 2014 at 6:44:53 AM permalink
Surrender not available correct?

Stand on 16 vs 7 at +9 Stand on 15 vs 7 at +10

Stand on 16 vs 8 at +7 Stand on 15 vs 8 at +10

Stand on 16 vs 9 at+5 Stand on 15 vs 9at +8

Is that where you thought they would be, Wanderer? Great song by the way. Notice that you'll be hitting more against the 7.
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August 23rd, 2014 at 6:46:33 AM permalink
I see that RS and I are in agreement.
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Wanderer
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August 23rd, 2014 at 6:54:20 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Yes, those are the proper plays (for H17 games)....although, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking.

16v7 : 9
16v8 : 7
16v9 : 5
15v7 : 10
15v8 : 10
15v9 : 8


The only one there that is illustrious 18 is 16v9. The rest of them are non-Ill18 indices that I got from Norm's CVCX.



Thanks. How would it differ in S17 games?
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August 23rd, 2014 at 7:53:09 AM permalink
Quote: Wanderer

Thanks. How would it differ in S17 games?



S17 and H17 indexes for plays against dealer's 7, 8, 9, and 10 would be the same because a dealer's hand containing any of these cards could not be soft 17.
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August 23rd, 2014 at 8:17:45 AM permalink
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August 23rd, 2014 at 8:56:07 AM permalink
Quote: Wanderer

Thanks. How would it differ in S17 games?



Indices are different in H17 vs S17 when dealer is showing A,2,3,4,5, or 6. I don't know what the S17 indices are (I seldom play S17, if ever). But I believe* 12v6 in an S17 game is -1, not -3, for example.
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August 23rd, 2014 at 9:15:44 AM permalink
I always hit 16 vs 10 if it's 3 decks or more
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August 23rd, 2014 at 9:52:04 AM permalink
One thing to remember is that as the count increases, the .22% advantage that the house enjoys by hitting soft 17 begins to shrink. In high counts it can be almost negligible and that's when the big money is on the table.
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August 23rd, 2014 at 10:56:14 AM permalink
I always play 2D and the majority of tables around here are S17.
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