slackyhacky
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August 16th, 2014 at 10:27:36 AM permalink
I've been teaching my kids blackjack. I am the house and hate it when they loose. Anyway, I want to give them the best chance (lowest house edge).

What rules provide this? Currently I play dealer hits on soft 17, double down allowed anytime, double down allowed after split. Anything else?
lmaths
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August 16th, 2014 at 10:56:58 AM permalink
Quote: slackyhacky

I've been teaching my kids blackjack. I am the house and hate it when they loose. Anyway, I want to give them the best chance (lowest house edge).

What rules provide this? Currently I play dealer hits on soft 17, double down allowed anytime, double down allowed after split. Anything else?



Stand on 17, resplit aces, surrender, 1 deck. LOL
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August 16th, 2014 at 11:25:13 AM permalink
Quote: slackyhacky

I've been teaching my kids blackjack. I am the house and hate it when they loose. Anyway, I want to give them the best chance (lowest house edge).

What rules provide this? Currently I play dealer hits on soft 17, double down allowed anytime, double down allowed after split. Anything else?

Let them hole card you.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 16th, 2014 at 5:24:07 PM permalink
Quote: slackyhacky

I am the house and hate it when they loose.



There are a few important opportunities for life lessons here; "the house always* wins" and "you can recover from a loss" come to mind.

If you're just trying to practice arithmetic, try cribbage.

If you want it to be practical education in blackjack basic strategy (and/or advanced strategies), I expect that by the time they're allowed to play for real, it will all be H17.

*Usually.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 16th, 2014 at 5:47:34 PM permalink
This is still interesting for discussion though. For example, if you're going to put on a blackjack tournament, it doesn't matter what the house advantage is on the game. In fact, it'd be more exciting if there was player advantage, since it'll make bigger chip stacks usually.
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August 17th, 2014 at 12:44:08 AM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

In fact, it'd be more exciting if there was player advantage, since it'll make bigger chip stacks usually.



So... 5 card charlie rule, JA bonus (As & any black jack = 2:1), 678/777 bonus, draw to split aces/resplit aces/double after split on aces.

Might even go crazy and turn a half deck face up during the shuffle, so 1/12 times, the player has advance knowledge of the next card / hole card.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 17th, 2014 at 1:45:24 AM permalink
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I've been teaching my kids blackjack. I am the house and hate it when they loose. Anyway, I want to give them the best chance (lowest house edge).


Remove all the 5s. Thus players will enjoy about 2% advantage.
Deucekies
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August 17th, 2014 at 12:45:12 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

So... 5 card charlie rule, JA bonus (As & any black jack = 2:1), 678/777 bonus, draw to split aces/resplit aces/double after split on aces.

Might even go crazy and turn a half deck face up during the shuffle, so 1/12 times, the player has advance knowledge of the next card / hole card.


You jest of course, but face-up cards would not be an advantage that can be equally enjoyed by all the players. Not the same as 2:1 BJs, 777 bonuses, etc.
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August 17th, 2014 at 1:10:38 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

You jest of course, but face-up cards would not be an advantage that can be equally enjoyed by all the players. Not the same as 2:1 BJs, 777 bonuses, etc.



That depends on where the face up card lands.

If you have knowledge of the dealer's hole card, that should benefit all. Otherwise, due to distribution, this should benefit all about as often as 2:1 BJ pay.
May the cards fall in your favor.

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