Neutrino
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July 31st, 2014 at 1:23:33 PM permalink
I was just at the casino playing blackjack. I play perfect basic strategy and use hi-lo for counting. Yesterday's session in particular, I received heavy social pressure when I'm making the right plays from the other people at the table and the dealer.

Surprisingly I only get almost no pressure when I take insurance, except a statement of (Insurance is a bad bet, you should never take it). That is despite insurance was the most profitable plays of all my contested plays (TC was about +6 after half the shoe). I got some moderate amount of pressure/comments when I hit 12 vs 2 and 12 vs 3. I got heavy amount of pressure/comments when I hit S18 against 10. I got extreme amount of pressure when I wanted to split 10/10 vs 5. So much pressure that I ended up not doing it. 5 people, including 2 dealers, told me "you never split a winning hand" "you never split 10s" etc. One guy even said "especially against a dealer 5" and I was thinking internally wtf is this guy's problem, 5 is the 2nd best hand to split against. I guess I acted too stupidly everyone thought they'd help me out. The TC was ~+5.3, so I thought it was kinda a borderline decision so I ended up standing and the dealer busted (was for f**king $100 as well, coulda earned an extra $100).

Most of this pressure to make bad plays came from a guy at the table who doesn't double 11s or split aces because he thinks only getting 1 card makes you lose more.

Wow.
Zcore13
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July 31st, 2014 at 1:27:31 PM permalink
Very easy. Tell them nicely, "I'll risk my money how I like and you can risk yours the way you like".

The Dealer at that point and especially the Floor should be there to tell the other(s) at the table to mind their own business.


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AxiomOfChoice
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July 31st, 2014 at 1:31:11 PM permalink
Why do you care what others at the table say?

Having said that, I think that you need the right act to split 10s and not get pegged as a counter. Most people probably shouldn't split them regardless of the count.
Neutrino
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July 31st, 2014 at 1:42:12 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Why do you care what others at the table say?

Having said that, I think that you need the right act to split 10s and not get pegged as a counter. Most people probably shouldn't split them regardless of the count.



It's making me not know how to act. It's just awkward as hell when I had the S18 and I signaled a hit and 3 people including the dealer simultaneously said "18!" and I said "yeah hit", got a 3, dealer turned over a 10 and I won. And the "don't split aces" guy said "that was really lucky, don't do it again".

Btw does anyone know if there's a index of when you should stand S18 V 10 in H17 games?
Ibeatyouraces
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July 31st, 2014 at 1:55:33 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
AxiomOfChoice
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July 31st, 2014 at 2:27:05 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

It's making me not know how to act. It's just awkward as hell when I had the S18 and I signaled a hit and 3 people including the dealer simultaneously said "18!" and I said "yeah hit", got a 3, dealer turned over a 10 and I won. And the "don't split aces" guy said "that was really lucky, don't do it again".



Act like you would any time someone acts like an asshole towards you in the real world.

Quote:

Btw does anyone know if there's a index of when you should stand S18 V 10 in H17 games?



If the deck is all 7's you should stand.
Ibeatyouraces
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July 31st, 2014 at 2:28:44 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
JimRockford
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July 31st, 2014 at 2:31:54 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

It's making me not know how to act. It's just awkward as hell when I had the S18 and I signaled a hit and 3 people including the dealer simultaneously said "18!" and I said "yeah hit", got a 3, dealer turned over a 10 and I won. And the "don't split aces" guy said "that was really lucky, don't do it again".

Wait a minute. I thought you said that one of the benefits of Aspergers is that you are unaffected by peer pressure. Maybe I misunderstood.
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AxiomOfChoice
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July 31st, 2014 at 2:32:51 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Well no poop! LOL.

And if the hole card is a 2-6, you double ;-)



Technically mine is possible to know only by counting.

I wonder what the true count of 7's would have to be to make this a stand. You can also use that count for 14 v 10.
DRich
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July 31st, 2014 at 2:52:12 PM permalink
My standard response to others that are questioning my play is "I only do this when I am feeling lucky".
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