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Greasyjohn
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May 25th, 2014 at 7:31:57 AM permalink
Ace, I noticed that $100 is your min. What is your max? Are you playing 6D, or do you play DD too?
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May 25th, 2014 at 7:48:33 AM permalink
Having trouble of winning at blackjack table? Call a team of experts, we will help.1-800-save a bet.
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:10:18 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

There is some punk rock festival in town so the people watching is exceptional


Punk Rock Bowling and Music Festival
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DRich
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:17:40 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Okay,,,, Fleastiff hereby amends his advice to read: Get thee to a classy high roller room. No ploppies, no drunks, protein bars, Evening Drinks and Evening Gowns half on and half off the ladies. Why play at the level of the Hell Cortez with drunks and felons?



I think the majority of high limit players are ploppies.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
FleaStiff
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:38:59 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: FleaStiff

Okay,,,, Fleastiff hereby amends his advice to read: Get thee to a classy high roller room. No ploppies, no drunks, protein bars, Evening Drinks and Evening Gowns half on and half off the ladies. Why play at the level of the Hell Cortez with drunks and felons?



I think the majority of high limit players are ploppies.

Really? I've found some have had too much of that expensive Brandy from time to time and some are more loud than is appropriate for a high limit room which generally lacks the boistorous enthusiasm and loud music of the general casino. Generally they all know the rules and basic strategy and are polite but concentrating on the cards.

I've been even at low level tables where players will watch and make appropriate suggestions in accord with Basic Strategy. Sometimes its real fine experience to have the whole table playing together and its obvious everyone looks at all the cards and follows what everyone else is doing. This shows a measure of skilled play and a general absence of ploppies.
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 11:29:07 AM permalink
Just had a double that would've completed the comeback BUT NOOOOOOOOO
why should I win that one or any of the next 5 hands
Geez can I catch a break at all


I'm raging

Trip is -1k
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May 25th, 2014 at 11:35:37 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Go kill the El Cortez SD game!


It may be too much hassle. I once colored out 5 black from their craps game (betting red/green) and the cage cashier had to make a call to authorize the payout. That was a first for me, but imagine what the procedure would be if someone was actually betting black in the first place.
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May 25th, 2014 at 12:22:21 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

I once colored out 5 black from their craps game (betting red/green) and the cage cashier had to make a call to authorize the payout.

Several years ago someone organized a limousine trip where gamblers in Tuxedos and Black Evening Gowns were to descend on a casino and Bet Black despite the fact that the casino hardly ever saw any black action at all. At the last minute it became one limousine and two cabs worth of revelers who descended on a downtown casino, I forget which one, but it was most definitely a marginal operation. They reported that the casino did very well and despite there having been no warning to the pit boss, these groups of formally attired gamblers had a great time playing with people who were still wearing their release bracelets from the house of detention. The dealers did very well despite having chip trays that in some cases were not banked to handle such action and the Pit Boss even told the organizer to notify him in advance and next time he have something special done up for them. Some casinos are marginal operations. At the All Penny Emerald Isle in Henderson the cashier has to call to get authorisation for all payouts over 500.00. At the Eureka, now renamed I think, (main door locked after six pm) the situation is pretty much the same. Good food, good games... but its largely red chip action only.
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 1:23:38 PM permalink
Transferred to Aria

Just lost 5 doubles
Then a guy comes in midshoe and gets a blackjack and tells out PERFECT TIMING

Trip is now -2200
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 1:37:27 PM permalink
Switched tables just lost another 400
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 2:10:54 PM permalink
Switched tables and lost another 1600 then recaptured some of it

Trip is now -2400
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:00:12 PM permalink
Dealer just pulled

20
20
20
20
BJ
20
20
20
BJ
20
21


Trip is -3k
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:05:36 PM permalink
Started a new shoe she gets

BJ
20
20
I had a 65 double I get a 9 for 20
She goes 6 5 3 7



Trip is -3400
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:08:17 PM permalink
We're with you in sympathy mate.

Has the Aria at least extended any comps?
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:17:45 PM permalink
switched tables won 5 hands in the entire shoe

Trip is -4150 approaching tilt
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:18:15 PM permalink
Quote: Uranium235

We're with you in sympathy mate.

Has the Aria at least extended any comps?



Yeah I am comped here but losing nonstop
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:22:55 PM permalink
Trip is now -4400
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:32:04 PM permalink
I had 500 up I had 20
Guy next to me has 12 dealer has 2 showing he refuses to hit
Dealer turns over 10 for 12 then hits for a 9 BAM 21
Next card out was a 10 dealer would've busted

Down 5k
Greasyjohn
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:35:32 PM permalink
Ace, what's your high bet and are you playing 6D or any DD?
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:36:42 PM permalink
500

Been playing both
strictlyAP
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May 25th, 2014 at 3:38:13 PM permalink
go next door to cosmo, ill get you hooked up, play your own table dont worry about others decisions
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 4:26:18 PM permalink
Dealer started shoe just now with
BJ
BJ
20
BJ
I walked away

Trip is -5400
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 5:10:51 PM permalink
Just lost EVERY SINGLE HAND in a 2d game
Trip is -7k
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 5:22:23 PM permalink
Dealer just made 5 twenty-ones in a row
Trip -9k


I am going to lose my mind
rdw4potus
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May 25th, 2014 at 5:41:42 PM permalink
Oh, c'mon. This is just cover now...you really went home with the Mermaids chick and she robbed you, right?
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aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 5:43:15 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Oh, c'mon. This is just cover now...you really went home with the Mermaids chick and she robbed you, right?



At this point, I'd welcome her shooting me
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May 25th, 2014 at 5:49:14 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:09:33 PM permalink
Dealer just got 5 blackjacks in half a 6deck shoe
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:11:37 PM permalink
Yea this is a ton of dealer getting 20, 21 and BJ ..... are you drinking with double vision? Wish i was in Vegas to sweat your action, unfortunately I'm out of town.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:20:00 PM permalink
I finally won 3 hands in a row so I pressed to 200
Got 9,9,9
Then 2 king 2
On the doubles I got 7 and 8
So my hands were
18 19 19

Dealer has 4 turns over 7 then 10 for 21
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:38:33 PM permalink
I am going to have a breakdown
AxelWolf
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:40:49 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I am going to have a breakdown

Perhaps mustangsally can come hope you lose(go broke even), like she did DJ.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:46:06 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Perhaps mustangsally can come hope you lose(go broke even), like she did DJ.




Huh?
AxelWolf
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May 25th, 2014 at 6:49:26 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Huh?

Read this thread and you will understand https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/18158-downswings/
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
aceofspades
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May 25th, 2014 at 7:35:36 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Read this thread and you will understand https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/18158-downswings/




Ok got it


I feel like I am not in my body
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:28:16 PM permalink
Ace, I sympathize with your bad swing. That's some great hands for the dealer. I hope it switches your way and you can recover.
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:30:09 PM permalink
Ace, if your downswing has affected you emotionally as much as you describe, you should take a break from playing for at least the rest of the night.
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:35:00 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Ace, if your downswing has affected you emotionally as much as you describe, you should take a break from playing for at least the rest of the night.

Not really. Only if it will cause you to do something dumb. Other then that it's all mental. Cards wont change, luck wont change nothing will change. Tell yourself its just money. You might lose more tomorrow and win big tonight. Suspended animation is all it is.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 25th, 2014 at 8:56:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Not really. Only if it will cause you to do something dumb. Other then that it's all mental. Cards wont change, luck wont change nothing will change. Tell yourself its just money. You might lose more tomorrow and win big tonight. Suspended animation is all it is.



Feeling like he is "going to have a breakdown" and like he's not inside his own body is well past the threshold for negatively affecting his play decisions, in my opinion.
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May 25th, 2014 at 9:03:12 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Ace, if your downswing has affected you emotionally as much as you describe, you should take a break from playing for at least the rest of the night.



Out of respect for ace and his right to choose whatever he wants to do with his own money, I have refrained from posting any type of gambling question or opinion BUT I feel that soda is 100% correct here. If you have gone on tilt (which it seems you have) it may be best to pack it in for the time being and either have a good snooze or go do something fun out there (just stay away from Fatburger on the strip, they are busy renaming it "gangsta's paradise":)).

Tomorrow when you are fresh, win or lose, you will be ready to play your best game and make the best of your decisions while playing.

It is a tough decision to have to make as you are on tilt.............

Either way, we still enjoy your trip reports and updates and feel like we are being raked right there with you!

Go get 'em ace!!!
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May 25th, 2014 at 9:10:46 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Feeling like he is "going to have a breakdown" and like he's not inside his own body is well past the threshold for negatively affecting his play decisions, in my opinion.



I would agree. We aren't talking about reaching some sort of 'stop limit', where it would make no difference whether your next play was in 5 minutes or tomorrow or next week. AlexWolf is right that there would be no reason to stop in that situation. What we are talking about is a possible loss of self control, and controlling one's emotions. That is never a good thing and I would also recommend a break to refocus, whether it be for the day or the trip or whatever the circumstance requires.

Now, let me say this about Ace's trip reports....I have gotten to the point that I have almost stopped reading them. They all go the same way. He gets down early in the trip, makes a big comeback and ends up a substantial winner, far more than expectation. It remains to be seen how this one will play out...Lol. How much time left on this trip? I know Evenbob is foaming at the mouth hoping for a different outcome...lol. I am not routing against him...I even gave up one of my better downtown EV opportunities to him via PM.

But getting serious for a minute, Ace if this is the first time, you have the possibility of a losing trip, you aren't handling it very well, mentally, nor emotionally. This IS exactly what the game of blackjack is all about.....learn to deal with it.
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May 26th, 2014 at 7:27:34 AM permalink
Good morning everyone
Last evening...I went up to the room to relax and turned the television on to get my mind off things
Before I knew it it was 1am--I had fallen asleep on the couch--
I washed up...brushed my teeth and got into the bed
I am just waking up now...

Sodawater with Tomspur concurring are exactly right
My play decisions and bet amount decisions were being filtered through my emotional state

I am feeling refreshed and focused and plan on enjoying my vacation and regaining at least some of the losses back
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May 26th, 2014 at 7:38:15 AM permalink
I smell a rags to riches story coming up. Same story, different numbers, different town.
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May 26th, 2014 at 7:46:15 AM permalink
That smell is the hundred dollar bills Aceofspades is burning.This trip will not have a happy ending. An inferior counting system has finally turned in favor of the casino.
Nothing personal, Ace, just life !
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
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May 26th, 2014 at 7:56:45 AM permalink
Quote: Sabretom2

I smell a rags to riches story coming up. Same story, different numbers, different town.



Thanks sabre
I'm in a positive mindset
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May 26th, 2014 at 7:57:14 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

That smell is the hundred dollar bills Aceofspades is burning.This trip will not have a happy ending. An inferior counting system has finally turned in favor of the casino.
Nothing personal, Ace, just life !




Thanks Buzz I'm in a positive mindset while understanding the inherent risks
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May 26th, 2014 at 8:10:32 AM permalink
Yesterday is the past! Your vacation just started as you woke up this morning. You haven't lost or won anything yet as you just landed! You know what I mean? Now, GO GET UM! NO EMOTION!
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May 26th, 2014 at 8:16:29 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

go next door to cosmo, ill get you hooked up, play your own table dont worry about others decisions



I don't think Ace needs to be anywhere near the Cosmo with it having balconies. Come on, it's a Joke!
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May 26th, 2014 at 9:21:23 AM permalink
Ok morning session:


Was up 400
Dealer then got 4 bj in a 2d game and I lost 4 dbls
Dealer just made 6 twenty ones in a row
Switched tables dealer first 5 hands were 21
Won the first 5 hands at new table then the first hand I press is dealer bj lol

Down another 2k at this point


Switched tables again and in two shuffles of 2d got it back plus 1600

Trip now -7400
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May 26th, 2014 at 9:39:04 AM permalink
Just met Jay Glazier
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