Riva
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January 27th, 2014 at 10:22:58 AM permalink
I help run a charity gaming event. Real money. Low stakes. All volunteer dealers in blackjack. 20 tables which are always full w/7 players per table.

Basically, a $2-$10 game. Dealers use an 8-deck shoe. When done, we simply bring them a new, pre-shuffled shoe and take out the old shoe. This saves table down time by more than 25%. No insurance bets (I don't know why). Here's the big one...HOUSE TAKES TIES!

Two questions....

1. On average, based on what I just described, approximately how many hands should be played per-hour? This assumes a moderately skilled dealer.

2. By taking ties, approximately how much does that increase the house edge?

As always, thanks.
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January 27th, 2014 at 10:29:18 AM permalink
Quote: Riva


Two questions....

1. On average, based on what I just described, approximately how many hands should be played per-hour? This assumes a moderately skilled dealer.

2. By taking ties, approximately how much does that increase the house edge?

As always, thanks.



My answers, could be wrong (my errors, not people I'm quoting)

1. With no down time for shuffle, a moderate dealer should be able to deal a full table at 70-80 hph. (anecdotal from a distributor conversation)

2. Per the Wiz, house takes ties for all hands increases house edge by 8.86%. See this link, last line of the table.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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January 27th, 2014 at 11:22:40 AM permalink
Quote: Riva

I help run a charity gaming event. Real money. Low stakes. All volunteer dealers in blackjack. 20 tables which are always full w/7 players per table.

Basically, a $2-$10 game. Dealers use an 8-deck shoe. When done, we simply bring them a new, pre-shuffled shoe and take out the old shoe. This saves table down time by more than 25%. No insurance bets (I don't know why). Here's the big one...HOUSE TAKES TIES!

Two questions....

1. On average, based on what I just described, approximately how many hands should be played per-hour? This assumes a moderately skilled dealer.

2. By taking ties, approximately how much does that increase the house edge?

As always, thanks.



Great question, Riva! Hands per hour can be dealer dependent as some are faster and more dexterous than others. Other factors are number of players at the table, side bets, players' decision times etc. I regularly play over 200 hands per hour one on one.

Wong did some studies on this subject using Atlantic City six deck games. Here's what is in Professional Blackjack:

1 player: 248 hands per hour

2 players: 158

3 players: 116

4 players: 91

5 players: 76

6 players: 64

7 players: 56

Yes, many tables were cramped with 7 spots back then. I hope that you find this even a little helpful. Working with charities is one of the most noble and rewarding things that I can think of. The very best of luck with yours.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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