BlackjackGambit
BlackjackGambit
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January 3rd, 2014 at 10:26:12 PM permalink
I was playing at Arizona Charlie's Boulder and they offer a Single Deck Free Bet Blackjack game. $10min. 50% penetration. 3:2 blackjack.

Free bet rules
1. 9-11 double
2. split any pair except 10s and 4s.
3. Push 22

What is the house advantage here?

I have seen this
http://wizardofodds.com/games/free-bet-blackjack/

It says that 6 deck and okay with a pair of 4s is

.79% House Edge

and I have seen this
http://discountgambling.net/2013/08/22/push-22-side-bet-viejas-casino/

5.85% House Edge

Why such a discrepancy?
rainy
rainy
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January 3rd, 2014 at 11:17:32 PM permalink
It seems the Dealer Bust 22 side bet is the one with a 5.85% house edge, and not the game itself.
BlackjackGambit
BlackjackGambit
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January 4th, 2014 at 12:31:31 AM permalink
Do you think that Single Deck blackjack at Silverton has a lower house edge than Arizona Charlie's Boulder?

Single deck Silverton
- 3:2BJ
- 2x 10&11
- Split any 4x
Realistic .58HE

vs Single Deck Free bet?
rainy
rainy
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January 4th, 2014 at 12:35:48 AM permalink
Is that a Single Deck Freebet at Silverton?

The answer would be yes, because it has better rules assuming everything else is same like pushing on 22, etc.
BlackjackGambit
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January 4th, 2014 at 9:04:02 AM permalink
Silverton doesn't have Free Bet Blackjack. It's just single deck where you can only double 10, 11.

I guess my real question would be

how much more of an edge does the house have with PUSH 22?
- It seems like it would be pretty high since they are willing to compensate with a free double and multiple splits. I just can't find a calculator that can determine the edge.

For the card counter, I have found great success playing free bet especially since when the count is good and free bet option is available.
Ex. +5 count. $50 wager. I got 6/4, dealer 9
Free double. I got an A
dealer 9/10
Won 100.

It would have been unfortunate if I lost that 100 without free bet. But if I did use, I would have only lost 50.
BlackjackGambit
BlackjackGambit
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January 4th, 2014 at 11:33:28 PM permalink
After doing a bit of research, I found out the house edge for 6 deck Free Bet Blackjack is 0.625% if you use this strategy

http://discountgambling.net/2012/06/22/free-bet-blackjack-golden-nugget-lv/

Then I found this website
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/Calculating_the_House_Edge_for_Any_Blackjack_Rules_Set.htm


# Decks Advantage
1 +0.02%
2 -0.31%
3 -0.43%
4 -0.48%
5 -0.52%
6 -0.54%
7 -0.55%
8 -0.57%

So for Single deck Free Bet Blackjack, the house edge would be -.625+.02=

-.605

Is the math correct? Thoughts?


BTW, Doubledeck 3:2 (2xAny, DAS, RSA) HitS17 (realistic .42HE)
- most tables in LV
but poor deck penetration

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