Casinoraider
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June 30th, 2013 at 6:49:51 PM permalink
Hi Guys,
I am new to this forum and had been playing "Pontoon" or Spanish 21 for years. lately, I have been travelling to some overseas casino where they only have Blackjacks. Been in there a few rounds and lost some serious money. Coming back, I check most Gurus and Professors and found that they advocate Card Counting. To me and in this era, where all or almost all Asians casinos are using CSMs, Continious Shuffling Machines, the used cards are placed back into the machines for immediate shuffling. In addition, the cards within these machines are continiously shuffled. So, where in the name of a "Professional" can you count the hi-lo and "rich" cards??? The counters are a joking lot and need their motives and advices checked and re-check. Please tell me I am wrong....
rdw4potus
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June 30th, 2013 at 7:05:04 PM permalink
I'm not sure that I understand what you're asking. It's certainly true that CSM machines make counting virtually pointless. But those machines aren't used everywhere, and in the places where they aren't used it's still very beneficial to count cards.
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Casinoraider
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June 30th, 2013 at 10:01:26 PM permalink
Thanks, Maurice for your comment. I wasn't asking anything...simply making my point....there is as you mentioned 'virtually pointless" in counting cards, playing on a table with CSM sortings. If there is anyone who can say they were successful in counting cards on CSM deliveries, then I will eat my hat, and shoes too.
Wouldn't know any International Standard Casinos not using CSM nowadays. Anyway, have not seen a "shoebox" for cards for the past 10-12 years. Maybe, that's the reason why, we asians are dying on the tables.
MonkeyMonkey
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June 30th, 2013 at 11:51:22 PM permalink
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Thanks, Maurice for your comment.



Maurice?

Ok, something weird is going on around here lately.

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Maybe, that's the reason why, we asians are dying on the tables.



You should probably take this up with EvenBob, he's sort of our resident expert on Asian casino patrons. His insight is uncanny.
Casinoraider
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July 1st, 2013 at 12:24:14 AM permalink
Sorry, not Maurice..I meant rdw4potus...that better?

And whom may EvenBob be and be found, reach, contacted?

Asian tables, I specifically mean Macau Casinos. Have check the House Edge from Net and they are pretty low in Macau as compare to LV.
There is no way anyone can count cards on CSM table..Basic S is still in play.. but wagering with Hi-Lo? Card Counting?..that's BS..bullshits.

Like some Jokers to comment..thanks
MonkeyMonkey
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July 1st, 2013 at 12:30:07 AM permalink
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And whom may EvenBob be and be found, reach, contacted?



He's a little difficult to avoid, which is sort of like saying he'll find you.

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Like some Jokers to comment..thanks



Be careful what you ask for, you just may get it.
Casinoraider
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July 1st, 2013 at 1:01:13 AM permalink
"You think I'm joking" - EvenBob
MonkeyMonkey
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July 1st, 2013 at 1:06:40 AM permalink
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"You think I'm joking" - EvenBob



Perhaps the best place to start would be http://wizardofvegas.com/member/evenbob/ where you could begin to peruse the nearly 11,000 posts he has made. Bear in mind the signal to noise ratio is pretty low. But he really shines when he discusses "Asians" and baccarat.
Casinoraider
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July 1st, 2013 at 1:44:06 AM permalink
Thanks..but I think we are at the wrong tables...I am only interested in Blackjacks here (not Baccarat)....card counting?? blashemy
MonkeyMonkey
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July 1st, 2013 at 2:55:25 AM permalink
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Thanks..but I think we are at the wrong tables...I am only interested in Blackjacks here (not Baccarat)....card counting?? blashemy



Perhaps you misunderstood. Bob knows more about any given subject than there is to actually know, he's that smart. I just gave the "Asian" & bacc as an example. You will want to ease him into the discussion though, because like many geniuses he can easily find rudimentary grunts and babbling not worth his effort.

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