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reno
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February 4th, 2013 at 12:41:11 PM permalink
Do you ever play 6:5 blackjack? What if it's the only game available; for example, at a rural Indian casino with no competing casinos nearby? What if your bankroll is small, and 6:5 blackjack has the lowest table minimums? Would you play 6:5 blackjack if the dealer is attractive/sexy? Would you card-count a 6:5 game if there was no heat from management and the penetration were deep? Would you play the game if the dealer flashed their hole card repeatedly?

Or do you avoid it under all circumstances, no exceptions?
rdw4potus
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February 4th, 2013 at 12:56:43 PM permalink
I'll play 6:5 if I must when I'm on the road. On a typical trip, I'm trying to get to between 8 and 15 casinos in a day. If 6:5 is all that's open, I'll play rather than wait for a seat at a better game.

Otherwise, I avoid it in all circumstances.
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Boz
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February 4th, 2013 at 1:20:23 PM permalink
I have played $5 6/5 at O'Sheas when it was open with my wife trying to teach her Basic Strategy. The beer kept me from thinking too much about the odds giveaway.
rudeboyoi
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February 4th, 2013 at 1:25:13 PM permalink
should be an option for "if i dont realize it until i eventually get dealt a blackjack"
rdw4potus
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February 4th, 2013 at 1:34:30 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

should be an option for "if i dont realize it until i eventually get dealt a blackjack"



lol! yeah, that one's happened to me, too.
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February 4th, 2013 at 1:37:53 PM permalink
I've only played once, before I knew what card counting was, before I even knew basic strategy. Basically when I was a ploppy :).

Quote: reno

Would you play the game if the dealer flashed their hole card repeatedly?


This should be a no-brainer, assuming you know the correct strategy to play. A known hole card easily overcomes the 1.65%-ish edge that 6:5 carries.
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GH
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February 4th, 2013 at 2:38:05 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

should be an option for "if i dont realize it until i eventually get dealt a blackjack"


Ditto. Sometimes the signage is obscured.
Ibeatyouraces
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February 4th, 2013 at 4:16:33 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
MakingBook
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February 4th, 2013 at 4:32:26 PM permalink
I unknowingly played 6:5 blackjack once.

I received a blackjack and was paid $12 for my $10 bet. I remember pointing at the payout and saying
"you shorted me." The dealer said "blackjacks pay 6:5." I thought she was kidding. I never heard
of such a thing. Of course, I left the table.

I will never let that happen again; unless I have an edge to overcome 6:5.
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FleaStiff
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February 4th, 2013 at 5:34:49 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

should be an option for "if i dont realize it until i eventually get dealt a blackjack"


Sometimes signage and payouts take awhile to make it through the alcohol fog, but when its the only five dollar table what are you going to do?
ahiromu
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February 4th, 2013 at 6:27:08 PM permalink
One trip, then I found out how to gamble for reals.
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WhaleGeorge
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February 4th, 2013 at 11:21:47 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Sometimes signage and payouts take awhile to make it through the alcohol fog, but when its the only five dollar table what are you going to do?


Man up and play a $10 table!
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February 5th, 2013 at 12:08:30 AM permalink
Quote: WhaleGeorge

Man up and play a $10 table!

If only. For me the only alternatives are:
A five dollar table, three fifteen dollar tables, three twenty dollar tables... all at 6:5 or I can play MiniBacc at 20 and up.

If I trek to a more distant Indian casino, it becomes several low limit 6:5 tables or several 25.00 and up 2:3 no mid shoe entry tables.

Low level blackjack with 3:2 is available only on the high seas and is played at lightening speed usually with all seats taken.
rudeboyoi
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February 5th, 2013 at 12:13:40 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

several 25.00 and up 2:3 no mid shoe entry tables.



and i thought getting paid 6:5 was bad! hehe.
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February 5th, 2013 at 3:26:02 AM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

and i thought getting paid 6:5 was bad! hehe.



I caught that too. I chortled.
Bowler377
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December 7th, 2023 at 1:34:45 AM permalink
I only do so if I believe I can count cards at one successfully. I know it's not ideal, but hypothetically:

Key question: I found a 6 deck H17 RSA 87% pen 6:5 blackjack game close to where I live.

Could somebody please calculate for me, the minimum bet spread (min to max) needed to make a decent hourly rate at that game?

Is a 40:1 bet spread sufficient?

I don't want to experiment too deep in the 6:5 world, without knowing the math more precisely.

Is this a good plan of action for comps?
ChumpChange
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December 7th, 2023 at 3:08:49 AM permalink
It's a damn ripoff after too many blackjacks, they've killed the game, kinda like triple zero roulette.
If you were going to cash out even after 100 blackjacks, well now it's more like 25 blackjacks with the HA being 4X higher and variance being the same. I'm sure somebody has better math for this but it looks bleak. Somebody told me to take triple odds in craps instead.

https://vegasadvantage.com/minimum-bet-for-3-2-blackjack/
Last edited by: ChumpChange on Dec 7, 2023
TigerWu
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December 7th, 2023 at 6:46:23 AM permalink
Casino are trying to find the balance of scaring off card counters while still getting casual players that don't care. Seems like 6:5 might be that balance.
rainman
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December 7th, 2023 at 1:56:59 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Casino are trying to find the balance of scaring off card counters while still getting casual players that don't care. Seems like 6:5 might be that balance.
link to original post



I think it's more about money, most of the E Blackjack in Vegas is 6-5 and they don't even have to pay a dealer.
Talldude90
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December 8th, 2023 at 10:24:40 AM permalink
I refuse to play 6/5 on principal, however that dosen't stop those tables from being full whenever they are open because of the low min. If people only refused to play then they would bring back the 3/2 :(
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December 9th, 2023 at 2:10:01 AM permalink
Only times Ive played 6/5 have been when using a matchplay or free play. Otherwise, Id rather just get lay craps.
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