GoodLuckCanuck
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January 11th, 2013 at 2:25:44 PM permalink
I can't seem to find any basic strategy charts or deviation charts to the specific rules to my local casinos. I have been using the Wizards Basic Strategy Calculator as my guideline but his options are limited. And for my deviations I have been using the Hi-Lo H17 chart from Blackjack Apprenticeship. It's as close as I can find to what I need for now but I think I am making playing errors. Like Not doubling an 11 against an A or 10. I feel I should cause the dealer will only take my original bet if he gets a BJ. But I have no math to back that up. Any help would be much appreciated, eh!

My local rules:

6 Decks
No Hole Card
Hit on soft 17
Double any 2 cards
Late Surrender (No surr. against an A)
Resplit to 4 hands (Including Aces) 1 card per A
Only original bet is lost on dealer BJ
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January 11th, 2013 at 3:24:32 PM permalink
It makes no difference whether the dealer takes a hole card as long as splits and doubles do not lose to a blackjack. What you've described is regular blackjack with half decent rules I might add.

There are six basic strategy changes when going from S17 to H17. If your chart doesn't have them you can print one from the Wizard of Odds site. In the meantime here they are. Surrender 17 vs ace, 8,8 vs ace and 15 vs ace. Double A,7 vs 2, A,8 vs 6 and ace vs 11. Don't worry about the math. It's all been done for you.
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January 11th, 2013 at 3:24:45 PM permalink
No-peek/No Hole Card is sometimes known as European rules where doubles and splits lose both bets on dealer BJ. Essentially this means you don't double 11 vs Ten or Ace and only split Aces vs Ten, no splitting 8s vs Ten nor Ace. However you state only the original bet loses (I think Atlantic City works this way, but it's been a while since I've been there). So the strategy is as in normal US (as per above post), although you need to check (i) whether DDAS before splitting and (ii) if dealer gets BJ that two bust hands following a split do not lose both bets.
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January 12th, 2013 at 10:05:22 AM permalink
Okay. Thank you. I was just confused cause I know in full European rules, a dealer BJ will take all of your bets. So my local blackjack is like a hybrid of American H17 and ENHC. We can also DAS split here, and even if I split 4 times and double on all of them and then dealer still gets a BJ, I still only lose the original bet.
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January 12th, 2013 at 3:00:10 PM permalink
Remember that the OP CANNOT surrender against an Ace, but go ahead and try, if the Dealer doesn't catch it, its to your advantage.

Keep the Wizard's H17 chart handy, or use that. No surrender vs. Ace in H17 has some value, so, the game is a bit worse than the -0.66% House Advantage. Probably not worse than 0.7%.
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January 15th, 2013 at 1:32:23 PM permalink
Quote: 98Clubs

Remember that the OP CANNOT surrender against an Ace, but go ahead and try, if the Dealer doesn't catch it, its to your advantage.

Keep the Wizard's H17 chart handy, or use that. No surrender vs. Ace in H17 has some value, so, the game is a bit worse than the -0.66% House Advantage. Probably not worse than 0.7%.



Thanks. I have seen this game with surrender against an ace settled at the conclusion of the hand. As you point out that is not the case here. What we do have is early surrender against a ten. That and the re splitting of aces should take a little of the sting out of it.
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