AC weekend
All checked in now and relaxing - making this the comeback trip from last weekend's debacle (-7k)
So, +530, only 6470 to go!!!
gambling.
Here is a quick preview of my weekend: Dinner with my wife's boss Friday night (he is retiring...yawn). Daytime with in-laws Saturday (yawn again). 4 year old nephews birthday party, with 20 other hyperactive sugared up kids in attendance Sat night (i.e.--no booze, sober yawn, revolver to head).
So I really need Ace to have a good weekend (someone should). Go get em!!
begin session +530
Sat down and won the first two hands (dealer busted)
Third hand doubled a 9 versus a 5 and lost when I was only dealt a deuce
Went back and forth the next few hands - nothing to write home about
ended up +500 for the session
Trip total: +1,030
(trying to make it to +7k to even up from last week)
Quote: Buzzard(trying to make it to +7k to even up from last week) GRRRR
Sorry Buzz, I meant I was heading to +7k and beyond...the past is the past
Quote: vendman1Yes!! Ace is back with an AC trip report thread...I can live vicariously through him this weekend.
Here is a quick preview of my weekend: Dinner with my wife's boss Friday night (he is retiring...yawn). Daytime with in-laws Saturday (yawn again). 4 year old nephews birthday party, with 20 other hyperactive sugared up kids in attendance Sat night (i.e.--no booze, sober yawn, revolver to head).
So I really need Ace to have a good weekend (someone should). Go get em!!
Sounds like a weekend of extremes - old to young, quiet to noisy
I hope that I do not have such extremes at the tables - just up up up!!!
Quote: vendman14 year old nephews birthday party, with 20 other hyperactive sugared up kids in attendance Sat night (i.e.--no booze, sober yawn, revolver to head).
When in a similar situations, I sneak in a flask (or three) as long as I'm not driving.
Sorry for the mini-hijack of thread.
Quote: MakingBookWhen in a similar situations, I sneak in a flask (or three) as long as I'm not driving.
Sorry for the mini-hijack of thread.
Way ahead of you!!...good looking out.
Tell me you're winning Ace?...off to dinner with the fuddies and duddies.
Quote: vendman1Here is a quick preview of my weekend: Dinner with my wife's boss Friday night (he is retiring...yawn). Daytime with in-laws Saturday (yawn again). 4 year old nephews birthday party, with 20 other hyperactive sugared up kids in attendance Sat night (i.e.--no booze, sober yawn, revolver to head).
Hilarious, sounds like too many weekends I've experienced!
Quote: vendman1
Here is a quick preview of my weekend: Dinner with my wife's boss Friday night (he is retiring...yawn). Daytime with in-laws Saturday (yawn again). 4 year old nephews birthday party, with 20 other hyperactive sugared up kids in attendance Sat night (i.e.--no booze, sober yawn, revolver to head).
In light of this days horrific event at Sandy Hook Elementary School, in Connecticut, maybe you could look your nephews birthday party in a more positive note, as an opportunity to express your love and celebrate happy times, rather than a chore that you have to attend. 20 families in Newtown Connecticut only wish they once again had that opportunity. Oh...and leave the revolver under lock and key, please.
Quote: vendman1Tell me you're winning Ace?...off to dinner with the fuddies and duddies.
Just got utterly destroyed
In one shoe I lost 20 of 25 hands
on 13 of those 20 hands, I had 19 or better
also lost 3 doubles and 1 split
trip is now NEGATIVE 2700
Quote: aceofspadesJust got utterly destroyed
In one shoe I lost 20 of 25 hands
on 13 of those 20 hands, I had 19 or better
also lost 3 doubles and 1 split
trip is now NEGATIVE 2700
Ace, seems all your trips end badly, or some start off badly, real bad, and you manage to climb out of the gigantic hole at least somewhat. Perhaps, I have only paid attention to a couple of your bad trips. Are you winning in the long run? What is your YTD, if you don't mind?
and better luck (I guess) for the remainder of your trip.
Quote: Mission146He's still ahead for the year, but it ain't by much now...
You are keeping a running count Mission? lol
Quote: kewljYou are keeping a running count Mission? lol
This weekend began +10k for the year
subtract 2700 from that
now +7300
This last month has destroyed me for the year - I was +20k a month ago
Quote: aceofspadesThis weekend began +10k for the year
subtract 2700 from that
now +7300
This last month has destroyed me for the year - I was +20k a month ago
If it makes you feel better, your value is much better. I'm throwing a slammed-together guess at your value with all of the rooms, meals and comped concert tickets you have received, and I put you right around 10-11K.
Quote: Mission146If it makes you feel better, your value is much better. I'm throwing a slammed-together guess at your value with all of the rooms, meals and comped concert tickets you have received, and I put you right around 10-11K.
you mean in addition to actual money?
Quote: aceofspadesyou mean in addition to actual money?
That's absolutely right! You don't pay taxes on your comps, but you're not paying for them, either. Think of it like a radio giveaway where Caller 7 wins tickets to the concert that would otherwise be $100/ticket. He wins two tickets, those tickets represent $200 in value. Everyone else had to pay for their tickets, so where they are -$200 with two tickets, the winner is at $0 with two tickets. The tickets are worth something, nevertheless.
Your rooms, meals and tickets are all worth something. They don't convert to direct money-in-hand, but they still have value in that you didn't have to pay for them. If you get a free room, then you are ahead the cost of one room.
crrrrrrrrrrrazy swings of variance
but finally got a good "speed count" (yeah you can make fun of me) and got 1k back
Quote: Ibeatyouraces10 units isn't crazy variance. Sounds pretty typical to me.
Bought in for 21 units - was down to 1 unit - left with 31 units
Quote: Mission146That's absolutely right! You don't pay taxes on your comps, but you're not paying for them, either. Think of it like a radio giveaway where Caller 7 wins tickets to the concert that would otherwise be $100/ticket. He wins two tickets, those tickets represent $200 in value. Everyone else had to pay for their tickets, so where they are -$200 with two tickets, the winner is at $0 with two tickets. The tickets are worth something, nevertheless.
Your rooms, meals and tickets are all worth something. They don't convert to direct money-in-hand, but they still have value in that you didn't have to pay for them. If you get a free room, then you are ahead the cost of one room.
Hold on, I misunderstood your question, sorry. I meant between 10-11K total.
going to bed -500
sweet dreams
more reports tomorrow
I've also encountered terrible Variance in AC this week.
Down 1k total in 3 seperate sessions at Caesars($350) , Ballys($250) & Borgata ($400)
And I fully know what you mean by the CRAZINESS, and how having 19 & 20 isn't even a safe hand anymore in AC. Had five 19's in a row and all but ONE lost, the 5th one pushed with a dealer showing 8.
Borgata was also very cruel, every picture card was saddled with a 3/4/5 and subsequently busted with a picture card more often than not.
The good news is, went down to Mt. Airy the other day in PA and recovered $360. Funny thing was, most of it was recovered on a run of 6 straight 18's and the dealer only made 17 or busted! Took a break and tried to get the 5k in the free Tourny, but no luck : ( So had a comped meal and left with a hope of getting it back this weekend.
What a difference a day makes!
Quote: BedWetterBetterWell done Ace, you're headed in the right direction.
I've also encountered terrible Variance in AC this week.
Down 1k total in 3 seperate sessions at Caesars($350) , Ballys($250) & Borgata ($400)
And I fully know what you mean by the CRAZINESS, and how having 19 & 20 isn't even a safe hand anymore in AC. Had five 19's in a row and all but ONE lost, the 5th one pushed with a dealer showing 8.
Borgata was also very cruel, every picture card was saddled with a 3/4/5 and subsequently busted with a picture card more often than not.
The good news is, went down to Mt. Airy the other day in PA and recovered $360. Funny thing was, most of it was recovered on a run of 6 straight 18's and the dealer only made 17 or busted! Took a break and tried to get the 5k in the free Tourny, but no luck : ( So had a comped meal and left with a hope of getting it back this weekend.
What a difference a day makes!
Great comeback bedwetterbetter
I know all too well the risk of 19's and 20's lately
It seems as if having 21 will get you a push 1/2 the time as well
The only safe hand is a natural BJ with a dealer upcard of 9 or less
I am getting dressed and ready to hit the gaming floor
First report of the day soon!
Wishing you all positive variance!
The following run of five consecutive hands summarizes it quite well:
Me: K,K
Dealer: 5,6,Q
--
Me: 10,8
Dealer: 10, 2, A, A, A, 6
--
Me: 10, 6, 4
Dealer: 7, 2, 3, 3, A, 5
--
Me: J, 10
Dealer: Blackjack
--
Me: J, 9
Dealer: Blackjack
As of this weekend, I am even for the year.
Thusly, I am taking a break until the calendar says 2013
Quote: aceofspadesWell this weekend continued a horrific last few weeks at the tables
As of this weekend, I am even for the year.
Thusly, I am taking a break until the calendar says 2013
That is actually pretty good. With all the free fine lodgings, free fine foods, and concert tickets, your entertainment cost is zero.
Quote: BhappyThat is actually pretty good. With all the free fine lodgings, free fine foods, and concert tickets, your entertainment cost is zero.
I'd say his entertainment cost is in the negative, which technically puts him ahead, because he could have paid for all of that stuff.
Quote: Mission146I'd say his entertainment cost is in the negative, which technically puts him ahead, because he could have paid for all of that stuff.
I say his entertainment cost is about 10K. Had he been serious all year, went the extra mile to search out best games, etc, he would have 10K more.
Quote: BuzzardI say his entertainment cost is about 10K. Had he been serious all year, went the extra mile to search out best games, etc, he would have 10K more.
How do you figure that?
Do you think casinos run homeless shelters, and soup kitchens? With his play style of playing one shoe here and there, his Theo might be less than a low rolling penny slot player.
Quote: BhappyWith his play style of playing one shoe here and there, his Theo might be less than a low rolling penny slot player.
If you don't know better than that, you should do Revel a favor and resign.
Quote: rdw4potusIf you don't know better than that,.
Perhaps you know better than me. So Enlighten me. What do you think his Theo is?
And what about all the freebies he received?
Quote: BhappyPerhaps you know better than me. So Enlighten me. What do you think his Theo is?
And what about all the freebies he received?
I think that lots of small sessions has exactly the same value as one long session of equivalent total duration. You insinuated differently.
I also think that casino marketing departments are smart enough to calculate theoretical gains (from their perspective) when offering "freebies" to players. It would be utterly incompetent of them to have offered too much.
As a WAG of the theo here: 8 hours of play per weekend, 80 hands/hour, $300 average bet/hand, standard AC rules with a .64% HE... about $1225/weekend in theoretical gain to the casino. I suppose a penny slot player could get there at max bet, but that's not exactly likely.
Quote: rdw4potus
As a WAG of the theo here: 8 hours of play per weekend, 80 hands/hour, $300 average bet/hand, standard AC rules with a .64% HE... about $1225/weekend in theoretical gain to the casino. I suppose a penny slot player could get there at max bet, but that's not exactly likely.
Yup. if one plays for 8 hrs, bets $300/hand, and dealer deals 80 hands/hr. Assumptions are wonderful things.
Quote: BhappyYup. if one plays for 8 hrs, bets $300/hand, and dealer deals 80 hands/hr. Assumptions are wonderful things.
Sure, which of those would you like to change? 8 hours of play seems to mesh with most of the trip reports, but maybe that's a little high. I figured 2 hours friday, 3 saturday, and 3 sunday seemed to mesh with the trip reports. $300/hand might be high. Flat-betting $100 should result in an average bet of about $125 after splits and doubles are accounted for, but I wasn't sure how to adjust for a bet spread. It isn't really discussed much, but we know that counting is occurring. 60-80/hour is industry standard. I took the high-side, because Ace has said that he likes to play heads-up. Are your dealers slower than that?
Even after all that, the value of a room in a half-full hotel is the cost of the housekeeping in the morning. So, about $3. The value of a free meal in a half-full restaurant is the cost of the food, so about $3. You can only claim the retail markups on those items if you're actually depriving a revenue-generating customer of service by giving them away to a casino player...
Quote: rdw4potusSure, which of those would you like to change? 8 hours of play seems to mesh with most of the trip reports, but maybe that's a little high. I figured 2 hours friday, 3 saturday, and 3 sunday seemed to mesh with the trip reports. $300/hand might be high. Flat-betting $100 should result in an average bet of about $125 after splits and doubles are accounted for, but I wasn't sure how to adjust for a bet spread. It isn't really discussed much, but we know that counting is occurring. 60-80/hour is industry standard. I took the high-side, because Ace has said that he likes to play heads-up. Are your dealers slower than that?
Even after all that, the value of a room in a half-full hotel is the cost of the housekeeping in the morning. So, about $3. The value of a free meal in a half-full restaurant is the cost of the food, so about $3. You can only claim the retail markups on those items if you're actually depriving a revenue-generating customer of service by giving them away to a casino player...
Assumptions are wonderful things.
You really need to take lessions in fundamentals in cost of running a business. I would not comment on your ignorance of $3 for food. I am sure you are not that dumb.
Quote: Bhappy
You really need to take lessons in fundamentals in cost of running a business.
I'm pretty sure that the MBA hanging on my wall covers that. Thanks, though.
Quote: rdw4potusI'm pretty sure that the MBA hanging on my wall covers that. Thanks, though.
I concede. You are too intelligent for me. (Lots of mail order places do sell those diplomas though)
Quote: BuzzardI have no MBA but assume Aces is not homeless and even $3 is too high for not sleeping in his own bed.
Not homeless - yet...
Quote: BhappyI concede. You are too intelligent for me.
Hmm...well, at the very least I'm smart enough to realize that assumptions are required to figure out a theoretical value;-)
Quote: rdw4potusI'm pretty sure that the MBA hanging on my wall covers that. Thanks, though.
All it covers for sure is the nail hole behind it. Anything else is just implied !
Quote: rdw4potusHmm...well, at the very least I'm smart enough to realize that assumptions are required to figure out a theoretical value;-)
And Ace assumed this would be a winning year.
Quote: BuzzardAnd Ace assumed this would be a winning year.
Buzz - up until this past month - it was a glorious year for winning (anywhere but at Revel)
THis last month brought me back to even.
