How Good Is This Blackjack Promotion

A blackjack promotion I know of will pay double on a second blackjack anytime it immediately follows a blackjack. However it really pays 3.5 to 1 on the second blackjack. Here is how it works. If you get a blackjack you get paid the normal 3:2 payout. They then mark your spot that you had a blackjack. If you then get another blackjack on the very next hand they will pay you the normal 3:2 payout on the blackjack and also will give you a cash voucher for twice you bet. For example, if you had a $100 bet out on you second blackjack you would get $150 on the blackjack and a voucher for $200. This is really a 3.5 to 1 promotion on the second blackjack on the very next hand.

I'm curious if anyone thinks this is a good promotion, and how does it compare with a 2:1 promotion on all blackjacks. You are allowed to bet anything you want up to table max on the very next hand after you have a blackjack.

I do wish the Wizard would also weigh in with his thoughts on this promotion.

Quote: MidwestPlayer

I'm curious if anyone thinks this is a good promotion, and how does it compare with a 2:1 promotion on all blackjacks. You are allowed to bet anything you want up to table max on the very next hand after you have a blackjack.

Good for who? The casino? Oh yeah, especially if you pile on the bet after getting a blackjack in hopes of getting another one. Good for the player? Not so much. 2:1 on all blackjacks is much better for the player.

do you know the specific rules of the game itself? should be a good promotion anyways. assuming youre not doing any counting, the strategy is really simple. bet the minimum until you get a blackjack. then bet the "max" on the following hand. you get a blackjack about every 21 hands or so.

some quick math. assuming 1% house edge and a $5 minbet and $100 max bet. ~400hands wagered at $5. ~20hands wagered at $100. ~1/20 of the $100 hands will be worth $200 extra. so you wager a total of ~$4000 (400x5+20x100) and are expected to lose $40 but you get $200 extra so +$160 over ~400 hands. at 100hands/hr its worth about +$40/hr.

Quote: MonkeyMonkey

Good for who? The casino? Oh yeah, especially if you pile on the bet after getting a blackjack in hopes of getting another one. Good for the player? Not so much. 2:1 on all blackjacks is much better for the player.

Not knowing how to evaluate a promotion is fine. Not everyone has the ability to do so. But please be considerate and refrain from making asinine posts like this.

According to the Wizard's BlackJack Rule Variations, 2 for 1 provides a +2.27% shift in the house advantage, making that one hand a player advantage.

Add in the extra promotion, and, despite MonkeyMonkey's absurd comment, I'd load up on the bets that follow a BJ.

The question is, should you wait for a time when you just got a blackjack AND the count is good? And how much do you put out there?

It's a question we struggle with all the time, if you have an advantage, how much money are you willing to risk with it?

And we're sure the casino will let you bet table max after a blackjack, even if you were betting table min before?

Quote: rudeboyoi

do you know the specific rules of the game itself?

You have a choice of 2 deck, 4 deck, or 6 deck games. All games are S17. Rules for 2 deck are S17, DOA, No DAS. The 4 deck and 6 deck game allow DAS.

Would this promotion be better than a 2:1 blackjack promotion?

Quote: MidwestPlayer

Would this promotion be better than a 2:1 blackjack promotion?

This might be a copout answer, but it all depends on what your goal is. If you're going to bet table max after you hit a blackjack, then this is better than 2:1.

If you're going to bet flat then 2:1 is obviously better.

I would love the opportunity to play that game. It isn't going to happen often, but when you do hit it that will be a big score. If you bet $5 to start and bump it to $500 after a BJ. I think this would add close to 4%. The bigger the bet after the BJ will increase your advantage.

This is a huge opportunity. The kind AP's converge on, flying in from every corner. I would be careful not to say much more about it or you won't be able to find a seat at the table. lol

Quote: DRich

If you bet $5 to start and bump it to $500 after a BJ. I think this would add close to 4%. The bigger the bet after the BJ will increase your advantage.

Probably can't go from $5 to $500 as the table limit is most likely $25 to $500. Its possible the $10 table might go to $200. I don't know for sure. Yeah, I too "would love the opportunity to play that game." However, several years ago I was flat-betted at this casino and one of the requirements to play the promotion is to have a players card. It's not worth the trip to find out if I can play or not.

If you're flat-betted, how do you go about increasing or decreasing your usual bet? Does your bet need to be the same for the whole shoe? If you're betting $25 a hand and losing can you ask for your "usual" bet size to be decreased to $15? Or does it pretty much mean that it's time for you to go?

I'd be surprised if it ever came to that. I think the goal is backing you off w/o actually backing you off.

IF you have to flat bet, 2 to 1 on all blackjacks is better than 3.5 to 1 on 1/21 blackjacks (the expected number of blackjacks that would immediately follow other ones).

Some quick math suggests you need to spread about 7 times your normal bet immediately after a blackjack to make it a better promo than 2 to 1, played at at a higher average bet for fair comparison, but I might be missing something.

The beauty of that is you could still count and play AP Blackjack without even taking the bet into consideration. You'd essentially spread as you normally would, but always bet Table Max after a Natural.

Quote: MidwestPlayer

... and also will give you a cash voucher for twice you bet.

How is the cash voucher redeemed? Do you turn it in straight for cash? Or is it a matching bet type thing?