EdgeLooker
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:33:35 PM permalink
Anyone have any funny or interesting stories? :)

It seems its always the very bad, non Basic Strategy players who have the most to say. Ex. The people in other seats staying on their 12-14s etc. against a dealers 10 didn't get a word said to them, but the guy on 3rd base hitting his A7 gets criticized if the dealer makes a hand because of it. Always the player on 3rd bases fault, lol.
Hunterhill
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:08:26 PM permalink
It`s even worse when you play at casinos that don`t take a hole card.
so if you have 15 and dealer shows a ten if you hit and get a small card, that card would have gone to the dealer,so for that reason many people will stay on 14,15,16 against ten.Of course when you hit and get a ten they say nothing.
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teddys
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:17:29 PM permalink
I always get criticized for doubling A-8 against a 6 in H17 games, regardless of where I'm sitting.

Which brings up an interesting story from today. I've won my last two A-8 v. 6 doubles. The second one occurred today. I was playing center field; double down card was a TWO! I got up, strutted around, and said "It doesn't get any better than that, baby!"

Too much? I figure I'm entitled to gloat after all the grief I've gotten over the years.

I also saw a guy get a 4 on hard seventeen a few minutes later. Something you'll almost never see, and for good reason.
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buzzpaff
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:19:49 PM permalink
kinda pushing it Teddys, especially in light of your past history. A dealers 21 does push. LOL
Mission146
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:35:32 PM permalink
I'll tell you guys what I like to do sometimes if someone is being a real jerk.

I always like to remember a misplay that a player makes from some number of hands ago, according to BS, and then throw it in his face if he doesn't like my play at third base. I shocked one guy so much that he didn't even know how to reply to me!

He says: "You know, buddy, if you knew that you should always stand on 14 (wrong!) then maybe you wouldn't have pulled that ten away from the dealer and we both would have had a win on that hand."

I reply: "I apologize, I'm not the world's best Blackjack player. The one thing that I did notice, though, is that if you would have Split those deuces against a dealer's five the way you are supposed to eleven hands ago you would have ended up with eleven and ten and would have hit for a ten on each and won both of the hands instead of being forced to stand on fourteen. Furthermore, the distribution of the cards would have changed, according to everyone playing Basic Strategy, such that the Table would have accounted for three more Naturals, I would have personally won three more hands than I have, you would have won four more hands than you have, in fact, you would only have lost three hands since then. Furthermore, this kind gentleman in between us as he would have won two more hands than he has, including a Natural."

***I was obviously talking completely out of my tuchus, except I was correct about the misplay and how many hands prior to that it was. That's really all I needed to know for my argument to be completely unassailable against this guy. He didn't bug me about anything the rest of the night!
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scire
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:44:54 PM permalink
Don't play BJ anymore but when I did, just as I would sit down at 3rd base (I always chose 3rd base so I could see as many cards as possble before decision) I would warn other players at the table that I did not always follow basic strategy. Seemed to work. I think most players just don't want a NOVICE sitting there although why I don't know??

I never would hit 13-16 with a ten up for dealer. In disgust I would surrender about half the time with 13-16 against a ten.
ChesterDog
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July 9th, 2012 at 8:51:16 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

...I always like to remember a misplay that a player makes from some number of hands ago, according to BS, and then throw it in his face if he doesn't like my play at third base. ...!



I should stay quiet when other players complain about me, but I've used your strategy in the past. I had some fun at the expense of one of my critics with, "Ha ha! You doubled on hard 12!!! Ha ha!"
kewlj
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July 9th, 2012 at 9:00:18 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146


I reply: "I apologize, I'm not the world's best Blackjack player. The one thing that I did notice, though, is that if you would have Split those deuces against a dealer's five the way you are supposed to eleven hands ago you would have ended up with eleven and ten and would have hit for a ten on each and won both of the hands instead of being forced to stand on fourteen. Furthermore, the distribution of the cards would have changed, according to everyone playing Basic Strategy, such that the Table would have accounted for three more Naturals, I would have personally won three more hands than I have, you would have won four more hands than you have, in fact, you would only have lost three hands since then. Furthermore, this kind gentleman in between us as he would have won two more hands than he has, including a Natural."

***I was obviously talking completely out of my tuchus, except I was correct about the misplay and how many hands prior to that it was. That's really all I needed to know for my argument to be completely unassailable against this guy. He didn't bug me about anything the rest of the night!



It is very tempting to put someone in their place like this. I used to do it frequently. As a player who supports myself from blackjack, play my top priority is longevity and flying under the radar, and that means not bringing attention to myself in any way. Any type of comment that says 'hey I know a little something about this game is counter-productive. In actuality, even if you are not an advantage player and just a basic strategy player, you want them to thing you know little or nothing about this game. Do you know when it comes to getting rated, there are different levels based on your play. 'Bad players' get rated higher and will receive better and more comps. A basic strategy player playing the same amount will be rated lower and receive less. And if you are determined to be an advantage player you will receive even less and eventually may stop receiving any comps for your play. Often this is the first step before a backoff or barring.

So back to the original situation. I now just smile and say your probably right. "I shouldn't have hit my 13 vs the dealer 10 because I took a ten that with his 5 in the hole would have made him bust"....(smile)..yes you are probably right. Bonus benefit is I think this actually disturbs them more than if you HAD gotten into a discussion with them. Afterall, that's what they wanted. :)
RogerKint
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July 10th, 2012 at 10:18:05 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I always get criticized for doubling A-8 against a 6 in H17 games, regardless of where I'm sitting.

Which brings up an interesting story from today. I've won my last two A-8 v. 6 doubles. The second one occurred today. I was playing center field; double down card was a TWO! I got up, strutted around, and said "It doesn't get any better than that, baby!"

Too much? I figure I'm entitled to gloat after all the grief I've gotten over the years.

I also saw a guy get a 4 on hard seventeen a few minutes later. Something you'll almost never see, and for good reason.



Beautiful. My last A-8 double the dealer mutters "you like playing with fire eh?" while the rest of the table sucks their teeth and shakes their heads. I got an Ace and won the hand. I didn't strut I just said "GET LIKE ME!"
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dwheatley
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July 10th, 2012 at 10:38:38 AM permalink
I was watching a table, waiting for a seat, when 3rd base opens up. The pit and the young female dealer ask me if I want to sit down. I warily scan the players, and say "I'll play so long as no one yells at me for playing properly". The dealer starts to chuckle, and as I sit down I mumble to myself (and the dealer) "You study that stupid card for a few minutes, and all you get is yelled at". The dealer actually burst out laughing.

I think the dealers see the worst of it and feel our pain...
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