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June 21st, 2012 at 2:01:15 PM permalink
Heading to AC Saturday and yes, another $500 slot play coupon for ace!!!
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June 21st, 2012 at 2:10:09 PM permalink
I am not the least be jealous. Just 100% ENVIOUS>>>> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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June 21st, 2012 at 2:11:38 PM permalink
ok for 2012 I am back in the positive for total casino play (all casinos) - but down at Revel - should I play as if I am positive for the year or still try and take revenge on Revel?
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June 21st, 2012 at 2:19:19 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

should I play as if I am positive for the year or still try and take revenge on Revel?



Do you really think it makes a difference? You're a part
time player, variance has you by the short hairs. You
feel good because you did great last time. We know
how that goes, don't we..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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June 21st, 2012 at 2:29:47 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Heading to AC Saturday and yes, another $500 slot play coupon for ace!!!



Good Luck Ace, you will be in AC Sat. and I am going cross country to Lake Tahoe. I'm debating on whether or not to write a blog, I don't want to bore anyone.
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June 21st, 2012 at 3:32:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Do you really think it makes a difference? You're a part
time player, variance has you by the short hairs. You
feel good because you did great last time. We know
how that goes, don't we..




YIKES!!! Sorry I'm not full-time
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June 21st, 2012 at 3:35:50 PM permalink
Quote: only1choice

Good Luck Ace, you will be in AC Sat. and I am going cross country to Lake Tahoe. I'm debating on whether or not to write a blog, I don't want to bore anyone.



Please blog it. I'd like to read about your trip, and anyone who might be bored can just skip it:-)
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June 21st, 2012 at 3:37:19 PM permalink
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Please blog it. I'd like to read about your trip, and anyone who might be bored can just skip it:-)



Thank you for the encouragement, I will do it.
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June 21st, 2012 at 3:55:39 PM permalink
deleted because I misread something
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June 21st, 2012 at 3:57:28 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

YIKES!!! Sorry I'm not full-time



They don't call variance a roller coaster ride for
nothing. Righ now you're going up the long incline,
you don't know if you're near the top or not. But
when you reach the top, and you know you will,
the free fall down the steep incline is never a
pleasant one.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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June 21st, 2012 at 4:18:17 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They don't call variance a roller coaster ride for
nothing. Righ now you're going up the long incline,
you don't know if you're near the top or not. But
when you reach the top, and you know you will,
the free fall down the steep incline is never a
pleasant one.




Sounds like you are rooting against me :(
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June 21st, 2012 at 4:20:20 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Sounds like you are rooting against me :(



He's like that to everyone. He has a decent point but his negativity is annoying. I hope you do well!
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June 21st, 2012 at 4:22:09 PM permalink
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He's like that to everyone. He has a decent point but his negativity is annoying. I hope you do well!




Thanks monkey!
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June 21st, 2012 at 5:12:37 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Sounds like you are rooting against me :(



There's no rooting involved. Variance is very real, its the word
we use instead of luck. Bad luck doesn't last, neither does
good luck. Emotion has no place in gambling, what happens
is what happens. I hope you do well, but if you don't, so what.
The variance will change and you'll get em next time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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June 21st, 2012 at 5:14:32 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

There's no rooting involved. Variance is very real, its the word
we use instead of luck. Bad luck doesn't last, neither does
good luck. Emotion has no place in gambling, what happens
is what happens. I hope you do well, but if you don't, so what.
The variance will change and you'll get em next time.




Well, truisms aside - it is always nice to be wished "good variance"

:-)
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June 21st, 2012 at 5:49:56 PM permalink
GOOD VARIANCE
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June 21st, 2012 at 5:56:08 PM permalink
I don't know why but I thought of this when I read your quote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQFLqMyo0foing your quote.
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June 21st, 2012 at 6:00:15 PM permalink
Do your Festivus shopping now and avoid the rush. LOL
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June 21st, 2012 at 6:24:11 PM permalink
Good luck again Ace...
Of course I'm going to Reno again this weekend...VIP Slot Touney for me, pretty much assured $200 prize money, but top prize is $10k!
Keep me posted on your results..we're rooting for you!
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
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June 21st, 2012 at 7:33:38 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

Good luck again Ace...
Of course I'm going to Reno again this weekend...VIP Slot Touney for me, pretty much assured $200 prize money, but top prize is $10k!
Keep me posted on your results..we're rooting for you!



TIM - I am wishing you "good variance" and a "Happy Festivus"

but, don't post about the $10k win on here or Big Brother will find out!
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June 21st, 2012 at 7:38:53 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

TIM - I am wishing you "good variance" and a "Happy Festivus"

but, don't post about the $10k win on here or Big Brother will find out!


Lol, "big brother" happens to be big sister....and the last time I played with her around, I couldn't MISS a quad!! I told her she was my good luck charm...
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
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June 22nd, 2012 at 5:45:30 AM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

Quote: aceofspades

...but, don't post about the $10k win on here or Big Brother will find out!

Lol, "big brother" happens to be big sister....and the last time I played with her around, I couldn't MISS a quad!! I told her she was my good luck charm...


Uh..., are you familiar with George Orwell?
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June 23rd, 2012 at 2:45:48 PM permalink
5 hours of traffic but Ace has arrived!
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June 23rd, 2012 at 3:40:52 PM permalink
Go Get 'em!
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June 23rd, 2012 at 6:32:09 PM permalink
$300 return on the slot play
I have yet to hit the tables (been dealing with a bunch of work issues on email and phone)
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June 23rd, 2012 at 8:34:12 PM permalink
no details - just +$1400
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June 23rd, 2012 at 9:34:04 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

no details - just +$1400



Soooo...prostitution, then? :-)
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June 24th, 2012 at 1:50:08 PM permalink
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Soooo...prostitution, then? :-)




I just got destroyed - had positive counts, spread the bets, and each time the dealer received the 10's and Aces while I received 12, 13, and 14's
Oh, and each time I got double downs I ended up with 15 or 16 and dealer gets 17 or 18

here is the lesson (that we all already know) positive counts do not equal success
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June 24th, 2012 at 2:03:08 PM permalink
" here is the lesson (that we all already know) positive counts do not equal success "

Should i start spreading higher in negative counts / LOL
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June 24th, 2012 at 2:08:11 PM permalink
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I just got destroyed - had positive counts, spread the bets, and each time the dealer received the 10's and Aces while I received 12, 13, and 14's
Oh, and each time I got double downs I ended up with 15 or 16 and dealer gets 17 or 18

here is the lesson (that we all already know) positive counts do not equal success



I know the view's not as good but maybe it's time to get out of that high limit room and onto the main floor so you can do some wonging. Playing all can take its toll.
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June 24th, 2012 at 2:12:07 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


here is the lesson (that we all already know) positive counts do not equal success



They can't, a positive count can be just as good
for the house as it is for you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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June 24th, 2012 at 3:45:54 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I know the view's not as good but maybe it's time to get out of that high limit room and onto the main floor so you can do some wonging. Playing all can take its toll.




All S17 tables are no mid-shoe
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June 24th, 2012 at 5:16:02 PM permalink
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All S17 tables are no mid-shoe



I didn't know that. In early April and again in early May, pit 1 had S17 at $10 minimums and allowed mid-shoe entry.
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June 26th, 2012 at 1:05:09 PM permalink
So what happened? Did you end up ahead? You haven't posted since
since Sunday.
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June 26th, 2012 at 2:45:23 PM permalink
Well, I am afraid to post now because of the warnings from members about casinos finding out

end of trip +$50 (yes, I hit bad variance and lost the winnings in positive counts plus more) - then I got a little back at a time and ended positive
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June 26th, 2012 at 2:57:52 PM permalink
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Well, I am afraid to post now because of the warnings from members about casinos finding out



Thats only when you're actually in the casino winning.
You give details and they can maybe, MAYBE, figure
out who you are when you go back down to play. I
think its majorly paranoid to think some casino exec
is hanging out on WoV watching for clues. Thats
highly unlikely. In fact its a little ridiculous.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:23:14 PM permalink
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Thats only when you're actually in the casino winning.
You give details and they can maybe, MAYBE, figure
out who you are when you go back down to play. I
think its majorly paranoid to think some casino exec
is hanging out on WoV watching for clues. Thats
highly unlikely. In fact its a little ridiculous.



A little paranoia can be a good thing. There are only 4 tables in the pit where he plays and some of them can be reserved especially on weekends. Even the slightest details are enough to identify someone in that situation. Not a week goes by that I don't hear a floor or pit boss refer to gambling sites pertaining to blackjack. The Wizard's sites are the most mentioned with BlackjackInfo next, even though its forum is closed. I've even seen WOV and WOO on screens in the pit.
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:25:48 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

A little paranoia can be a good thing. There are only 4 tables in the pit where he plays and some of them can be reserved especially on weekends. Even the slightest details are enough to identify someone in that situation. Not a week goes by that I don't hear a floor or pit boss refer to gambling sites pertaining to blackjack. The Wizard's sites are the most mentioned with BlackjackInfo next, even though its forum is closed. I've even seen WOV and WOO on screens in the pit.





I have asked the Wizard to lock out my other threads so only those who posted therein can view them as I have it on VERY GOOD authority that a certain casino has a former GCC person on staff to patrol various gambling message boards...

it's only paranoia if they aren't watching!
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:28:41 PM permalink
If you're a counter, they're already onto you. You're not a threat,
you came home with $50. You have lost big there. They love you.
Really, they do.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:31:04 PM permalink
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If you're a counter, they're already onto you. You're not a threat,
you came home with $50. You have lost big there. They love you.
Really, they do.





Isn't the average EV for a card counter $7 to $15.00 an hour? I played about 2 hours total and made $50...hmmmmmmmm
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:39:35 PM permalink
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Isn't the average EV for a card counter $7 to $15.00 an hour? I played about 2 hours total and made $50...hmmmmmmmm



Yes, for a $10 base bet. It's 1% to 2% of the total amount wagered. For your casino 1% would be good.
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:43:54 PM permalink
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Yes, for a $5 base bet. It's 1% to 2% of the total amount wagered. For your casino 1% would be good.




So, base bet of $100 assuming 250 hands per hour would be $250/hour?
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:52:17 PM permalink
Even if you were identified as a counter, in Atlantic City, there really wouldn't be a lot they could do... sure they could lower the max bet on a given table to a ridiculously low amount, but that's about it. If you got a third offer, I'm pretty sure you are in the clear and agree that the paranoia is all for naught...

Now if you were playing at a place that had a Vegas property, you might want to sweat a little, but it's unlikely that Revel is going to share proprietary information with a rival casino that would affect anything going on in Vegas. The worst that would happen is your name appears on a list with maybe a picture.
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:53:02 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Isn't the average EV for a card counter $7 to $15.00 an hour? I played about 2 hours total and made $50...hmmmmmmmm



And how much did you lose a couple weeks ago? They'll
let you play all day for $7 an hour, its the guys who bet
$200 and jump to $1200 that they don't like.
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:55:12 PM permalink
" The worst that would happen is your name appears on a list with maybe a picture. "

That's not what VINNY says. He does not like counters !
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June 26th, 2012 at 6:08:15 PM permalink
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So, base bet of $100 assuming 250 hands per hour would be $250/hour?



No, that would be flat betting which will net you nothing. You need at least a 1-16 spread and a solid count. The 250 hands per hour while not impossible seems high to me. If you could get $25,000 per hour on the table with that spread and a good solid count, then yes to the $250 per hour.
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June 26th, 2012 at 6:08:56 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

No, that would be flat betting which will net you nothing. You need at least a 1-16 spread and a solid count. The 250 hands per hour while not impossible seems high to me. If you could get $25,000 per hour on the table with that spread and a good solid count, then yes to the $250 per hour.





My spread is 1-6
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June 26th, 2012 at 6:11:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If you're a counter, they're already onto you. You're not a threat,
you came home with $50. You have lost big there. They love you.
Really, they do.





Well, luckily, I do not base my overall wins on my play at one casino in one 6 week period.
For 2012 - I am still +$3k
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June 26th, 2012 at 7:26:31 PM permalink
250 hand an hour? Thats a hand every 15 seconds, I'd
like to see that. Does the dealer have a big S on his chest?
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June 27th, 2012 at 10:58:31 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

250 hand an hour? Thats a hand every 15 seconds, I'd
like to see that. Does the dealer have a big S on his chest?




Yes - he had a gigantic S on his chest - it was shaved into his chest hair
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