Mosca
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February 23rd, 2011 at 9:57:08 PM permalink
Nice guy, friendly, pulling for everyone else all night (LiR is that kind of game), playing dimes in seat 1. He was just getting rolled by the cards, not playing good strategy, not getting anything worth playing either, but having fun. He was down about $700, and we were just talking about straight flushes, and I had just said that I had 4 to a sf once, and called it "deep breath territory". A couple hands later, he gives the "hold" signal; I pull back my first bet, and the next card is the Qh, pairing my Qc. And I look over, and he's white... and he flashes 10h/Jh/Kh... and gives the hold sign.... and me, and the dealer, and two kibitzers start chanting ACE! ACE! ACE...! And the dealer rolled the Ah!

$25k on the button, they paid him the $30 on the 3 Card dime, and instead of $10k/$10k/$10k on the bets they invoked the (clearly displayed) "$50,000 maximum payout" rule. He wasn't arguing, I might have but it was pretty clearly right there.

The only nicer guy it could have happened to was me. I sat there a while, gave him some high 5s, told him to make sure he got security to escort him to his car, etc. Of course the table was turned off for the next hour while they reviewed the hand, counted the cards, some dealers came over and congratulated him (he'd gone to high school with the one dealer's parents, knew a couple of the others). I hung around a while, curious to see how they were going to settle; in AC I'd seen them settle a straight flush with hundred dollar bills. But here they were going to give him a check and take taxes out, which I think is mandatory over $12k.

I was genuinely happy for him. I got up to take my leave, and he offered me a hundred, which I tried to refuse; but he insisted, saying that if I hadn't been at the seat between him and the roll cards he wouldn't have hit. I decided not to argue the point, it would have been rude and after all, $100 is $100. SO I took it, thanked him, and went down to the $5 Wheel of Fortune, my favorite vice in the whole casino, and I hit a spin for $400 and me & the Mrs went home and I sat down and typed this up.
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February 23rd, 2011 at 10:17:48 PM permalink
Pretty awesome.

How does it feel knowing you'll almost certainly never see that again?
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February 23rd, 2011 at 10:21:42 PM permalink
How does it feel knowing you are a total downer on a great story.

Quote: FinsRule

Pretty awesome.

How does it feel knowing you'll almost certainly never see that again?

Mosca
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February 24th, 2011 at 5:31:05 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Pretty awesome.

How does it feel knowing you'll almost certainly never see that again?



Well, since one has already happened, the odds of seeing the next one are the same as seeing the first one, so.... no different, I guess!
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February 24th, 2011 at 6:09:37 AM permalink
My friend got a straight flush at a casino in Brighton (one of the few places in the UK that actually has let it ride), the guy next to him had the card he needed to make the other end of the straight flush, so he only had one card to hit his 4 to a straight flush. I said 'fucking hell!' and the dealer told me to calm down, and that it was nothing special. I asked if he know what the odds were, and he said about 100-1 !

I just laughed and told him he should be embarrassed he doesn't understand the game that he is dealing. He didn't understand my point at all.
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February 24th, 2011 at 6:12:25 AM permalink
This is just as awesome as seeing a royal at a Caribbean Stud, which my wife saw about 6 months ago at Casino Niagara (worth about 110K). She was two seats away. My biggest view was a SF at Caribbean for 5.8K at Ballys about a year ago.
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February 24th, 2011 at 7:05:10 AM permalink
What's all this about seeing a royal again?

I'd be satisfied if I ever saw only one, in my hand.
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February 24th, 2011 at 7:32:31 AM permalink
That's kind of lame that he didn't get the full payout. I wonder how much it increases the HA to be betting too much to get a full payout.
Probably not too bad in this particular case, I guess he was supposed to get $55030? But playing $15 under that rule would probably be ill-advised.
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February 24th, 2011 at 8:23:07 AM permalink
The button bet pay table is the one that has a 24.07% house advantage, and he was betting the table minimum, $10. I think once you've accepted the 23%, the other $5k doesn't matter when you win.

No one plays Let it Ride because of the odds; it gets played because you don't have to think much. It was a real blast to watch someone cash in... not the same type of blast as if it were me, but it was a blast.
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February 24th, 2011 at 8:46:28 AM permalink
EDIT: I just rememberd, he only originally had a flush in his hand; I was about to argue the point of him only getting $30 (3:1 payout) but I was thinking he had a straight flush in the 3-card..Nevermind..
Still, I'd of totally shit. the closest I've came is having the AKQ of spades in LiR and the dealer flipped over the Jack of spades for the first card, THAT was a "deep breath" moment, LOL. (5th street was a total blank though)
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:10:53 AM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

EDIT: I just rememberd, he only originally had a flush in his hand; I was about to argue the point of him only getting $30 (3:1 payout) but I was thinking he had a straight flush in the 3-card..Nevermind..
Still, I'd of totally shit. the closest I've came is having the AKQ of spades in LiR and the dealer flipped over the Jack of spades for the first card, THAT was a "deep breath" moment, LOL. (5th street was a total blank though)



Dude, he freaked. He almost fainted, he yelled, "OHMYGOD!!!" about 5 times in a row, he tried to stand up and fell back to his stool. One of the pit bosses got him a water, I pulled out my nitros just in case he started getting chest pains, it looked like he might have a heart attack. He high fived everyone in range, then sat back down and said "Oh my god," then he screamed it once more, "OHMYGOD!" and we all (about 10 people, being 3 pit people, 2 dealers + the one dealing, me, and 3 kibitzers, thereabouts) gave him a round of applause.

When I had 4 to a straight flush (2-3-4-5, diamonds), maybe 6-7 years ago, I got J diamond. This was back before the 3 Card bet. But man, when that 5d came up my heart skipped a beat, for sure.
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February 24th, 2011 at 2:28:37 PM permalink
I've had a lot of "moments" at LiR..my best was when i actually made my BEST HAND EVER (and actually QUIT playing on that hand, LOL)
I had a pair of 10's and a 2, so I of course tucked, and I was pleasantly happy...dealer flips over a 10 first, which made me very happy that I made three of a kind, and even more happy that I might make 4-oak...nope..but the dealer DID flip over a 2 for a Full-House! Pays 11:1 if I remember right, which gave me $55x3
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February 25th, 2011 at 3:10:44 PM permalink
I Like your style Mosca. I wish more people would keep the laughs rolling in any casino to keep the vibe positive. Nothing worse than a downer or "cooler". I play a lot of LIR and have never even seen anyone get close to RF. I'm glad you felt privileged to have been there. And better still the guy gave you a little good luck that parlayed into more. Outstanding story brother. I'm gonna have to tell this story when I'm in Vegas in April. Should encourage some positive vibes. Thanks for sharing and happy gaming!
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February 25th, 2011 at 4:00:06 PM permalink
Thanks for a nice story. Cool that you witnessed that.

My wife and I played LIR a lot when it first came out.
My wife, right after the game came out, hit a straight flush but it was not high enough to enter the "tournament" at the time. A few months later they changed the qualifying to all straight flushes and higher. Then they stopped the tournament all together.
That was fun and exciting when she got her SF.

I have had 6 chances for the royal after having the first 4 cards to the royal.
Never got the RF, or even a flush! Only 1 time did I even get a pair!
Maybe my 7th time will be the one.

But what a rush when you have those first 4 to a RF!
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February 25th, 2011 at 6:20:41 PM permalink
You know, it's funny, LiR. My comfortable bet is $25, but I never win at LiR betting quarters and staying away from the button. (The base game has about a -3% expectation, according to the Wiz's tables.) But I've doubled up a $500 buy in twice, betting $10 and playing the button and the 3 Card bet. I'm months ahead on the button, I've hit 4 full houses in the last 6 months.

Now, I know that has nothing to do with odds and expectations. But it DOES have something to do with your mindset when you play LiR. And that is, relax. You aren't playing against anyone, other than the casino; you don't have to beat another hand. You can sit there and bet small, and dream about big hands. They usually put inexperienced dealers on LiR, so the game plays slow, you don't bleed chips too quickly. And you get the thrill of that moment right before you look at your cards... that moment that represents potential. That's the reason we play, for that moment, right before the cards turn, right before the dice settle or the wheels stop.
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February 26th, 2011 at 1:39:25 AM permalink
I saw a guy a few months back hit a SF on Caribbean Stud. After all was said and done he walked with over $40k, and other than a light smirk, he made no hint of emotion whatsoever. No clapping, jumping, high fiving, big cheese smiling, nothing. At first I though he was a newb and had no idea what he had just done, but from getting the hand, through the hour of review and proofing, and all the way until hitting the cage and walking with $40k+ in cash, nothing but a wry little smile. Personally, I may or may not have peed all over, but I certainly would have done the entire "Thriller" dance from atop the CSP table.
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March 1st, 2011 at 7:45:47 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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March 7th, 2011 at 7:08:36 PM permalink
In Shreveport back when they had a Harrah's downtown (around 2003) I was dealt an Ah-Kh-Qd-Jh-10h in Carribean Stud. Of course, I didn't know it was a diamond at first, I merely saw the red queen and nearly fell on the floor. I think the progressive was around $250k. You can all imagine the despair when the diamond rather than the heart showed its ugly little quadrilateral face. For a minute there, I thought they were gonna have to call a medic!!!!
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October 19th, 2011 at 6:57:14 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Nice guy, friendly, pulling for everyone else all night (LiR is that kind of game), playing dimes in seat 1. He was just getting rolled by the cards, not playing good strategy, not getting anything worth playing either, but having fun. He was down about $700, and we were just talking about straight flushes, and I had just said that I had 4 to a sf once, and called it "deep breath territory". A couple hands later, he gives the "hold" signal; I pull back my first bet, and the next card is the Qh, pairing my Qc. And I look over, and he's white... and he flashes 10h/Jh/Kh... and gives the hold sign.... and me, and the dealer, and two kibitzers start chanting ACE! ACE! ACE...! And the dealer rolled the Ah!

$25k on the button, they paid him the $30 on the 3 Card dime, and instead of $10k/$10k/$10k on the bets they invoked the (clearly displayed) "$50,000 maximum payout" rule. He wasn't arguing, I might have but it was pretty clearly right there.

The only nicer guy it could have happened to was me. I sat there a while, gave him some high 5s, told him to make sure he got security to escort him to his car, etc. Of course the table was turned off for the next hour while they reviewed the hand, counted the cards, some dealers came over and congratulated him (he'd gone to high school with the one dealer's parents, knew a couple of the others). I hung around a while, curious to see how they were going to settle; in AC I'd seen them settle a straight flush with hundred dollar bills. But here they were going to give him a check and take taxes out, which I think is mandatory over $12k.

I was genuinely happy for him. I got up to take my leave, and he offered me a hundred, which I tried to refuse; but he insisted, saying that if I hadn't been at the seat between him and the roll cards he wouldn't have hit. I decided not to argue the point, it would have been rude and after all, $100 is $100. SO I took it, thanked him, and went down to the $5 Wheel of Fortune, my favorite vice in the whole casino, and I hit a spin for $400 and me & the Mrs went home and I sat down and typed this up.




How much money did he get for the royal flush? Did he get $50,000? Or did he get $30? I think cash or check is the players choice there are a lot of people who feel unconfortable carry $50,000 in cash that would prefer a check.
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October 19th, 2011 at 7:58:56 PM permalink
He got $50k, they gave him a check. I'm pretty sure they took taxes out, but I didn't stick around for the whole thing; it was taking hours, and I was ready to go home.
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