Fire Bet winner!

Just got home from my monthly sojourn to Casino Niagara. There, I like playing some 50 play nickel VP (DBDW at 98.6 percent, Superdouble bonus at 98.7 percent), Blackjack Switch (.28 percent), and Craps.

I was not having a great night, having been hit pretty hard earlier at the Craps table for (after being up about $150) $60 and losing about $100 in VP. Back at the craps table, I bought in for my last $220 and hoped for the best. I wasn't even going to have the chance to roll but the shooter beside me gave me enough of a bankroll for my roll, about $80. On a $10 table, that gives me enough to play the line with double odds, and play a come bet with some money left over for the 6 and 8.

The table was busy and the dealer across from me was inexperienced and busy, instead of asking for "check change" so I could bet my usual $2-3 on my fire bet, I put in a nickel with $1 for the crew (4 and 1).

Now, I am not someone who believes that I have dice control, but I do set the dice the same way every time using a hardways set. And when i throw from the same position (third position left), I have had my best rolls, including a $1,200 win at Mandalay Bay and a $900 shot at the Paris a couple of years back, while shooting from that spot.

The first point was a eight. Easy enough... no problem. Next point was a five. I buckshot that. After that was the four, and it took me a while to get it, but I hit it. I was hitting the six quite frequently for some reason and was up to $30 when I hit the four. The next point was a five, and I hoping to get a different number for the fire. But I hit the five after a few rolls. Then came the 9. It took me about 4 rolls to hit that and I had a four point fire for $100. At that point, I figured, if that's all I get, I've broken even for the night, having won about $250 back through all of my other rolls.

At that point my wife came over to see what I was up to, and I told her to stay away for awhile, drawing alot of laughs -- but she understood.

The next point was a six, which I had been hitting all night. Despite that, I laid everything I had (thou shalt not hedge, I know), which was $312 for a $250 payoff, on the 6. It took me about 10 rolls to hit it, but I hit the fifth point fire for $1000!!! (and $250 for the dealers).

The 10 was all that was left, and after a stopover on another number -- another five, the 10 finally came out on the come out roll. It took me about 10 rolls, but I hit the 10, for $4,000 (and $1,000 for the dealers). I could not believe it. The regulars at the table couldn't believe it either. A six point fire, at 6,156 to one. Claps and handshakes abound. My wife returned. I rolled for about two more points and was happy to finally seven out. The roll I believe was about an hour.

So, I left the casino up $3,800, my best gambling stint ever, and a great end to my gambling in 2010.

Happy new year!

Quote: boymimbo

At that point my wife came over to see what I was up to, and I told her to stay away for awhile, drawing alot of laughs -- but she understood.

Happy new year!

Yeah took my wife a while to understand I don't consider you unlucky at that point I consider everyone unlucky at that point.

Glad ya had a good nite!

Congrats! That's an awesome story, and it must've been a hell of a fun night:-)

HOLY HECK, Happy New Year! AWESOME!

Cool!

Congrats!


Out of curiosity, how long did the table come to a halt while they were verifying and paying off the FireBet?

About one minute. There are no W2-Gs here in Canada or any other paperwork (it's all tax-free here), and about three pit supervisors were over while the sixth point was in action. There was only four fire bets to pay and they just paid with blacks out of the stack. They just confirmed the payouts and out it went.

The table was shut down for longer while people took their winnings. My comment as I left was that, "well, I've beaten Craps... what else is there to do?". I cashed in, grabbed a Caesar at the bar with my wife, and went home.

Congratulations! I'll skip the lecture on sucker bets. I don't begrudge hedging in situations like this, if you consider the win a life changing amount of money. However, I do think you over-tipped. I'm not sure if the total tip was $1,000 or $1,250, but either way, as a percentage I think you were being too generous. I think $100-$200 would have been enough.

Edit: I retract the above comment on tipping. As was stated in the original post a $1 tip was made on the Fire Bet, so I would say the tip was actually $1.

Quote: Wizard

Congratulations! I'll skip the lecture on sucker bets. I don't begrudge hedging in situations like this, if you consider the win a life changing amount of money. However, I do think you over-tipped. I'm not sure if the total tip was $1,000 or $1,250, but either way, as a percentage I think you were being too generous. I think $100-$200 would have been enough.

Didn't he say it started as a $1 bet for the dealers?

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The table was busy and the dealer across from me was inexperienced and busy, instead of asking for "check change" so I could bet my usual $2-3 on my fire bet, I put in a nickel with $1 for the crew (4 and 1).

So, it could have been a dollar tip, or it could have been $1000; the dice decided the matter.

Great story, happy ending, no you did not overtip.

Quote: Mosca

Didn't he say it started as a $1 bet for the dealers?

Yes, I missed that. I amended my comment. Thanks for correcting me.

Congratulations! Wish I was there. I'm there often and enjoy Casino Niagara even better than Fallsview.

boymimbo

Congratulations, here in the states it shuts down the table when you win a Fire Bet, when you hit it for 6 points. We all should know that it's a bad bet, but if you are a DI, you should always have it bet when you are shooting if you are any good, I love the fire bet, but would not recommend it for anybody that is not a DI, although I see a lot of players that are just slinging the dice hit it too!

I say throw $1 on it, after all we all make some bad bets on the tables, and if you are just betting it on your self, it will make your day or year when you do hit it!

I wish you luck in the coming new year, and my you hit a lot more of them when you are on the tables!


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Accepted a new job yesteraday, 2 weeks between layoff and acceptance to the day. Not bad for these days. So I hit the casino. And I know it is a suckler bet, so I don't make it, 2 others do. Not sure but I think the dealers had one going for them.

Dice to me, point is 5, make the point.
New roll, point 4, make it.
New roll, point 8, make it. I am barely paying attention to the fire bet markers as I never played a fire bet table before, or at least no one ever got more than 1 point in a row at one. Guy next to me, who has been playing it all day, says, "KEEP IT GOING!"

Repeat the 6 and the 5 somewhere in there.

As a side note, third base dealer knew me from craps class. He was telling me good roll. I am not wanting him to get in trouble, but the boxman did not seem to care.
Point of 6 and make it, stickman calls "FIRE BET!"

Made the dude on my left $300 or so in hard sixes. Sevened out on the next point, but what a feeling when the pit boss has to watch the fire bet payoff.

Too Cool! I love stories like that.

Me and cousin Larry hit a 6 point fire bet at the Horseshoe in Tunica last year... Larry was throwing for about 10 minutes before hitting #3, but then he hit 4 5 and 6 in 6 rolls... a total of 7 consecutive PERFECT rolls.

Good thing, otherwise I think I would have had a heart attack waiting for 'em to hit!

I had bet $2, Larry had bet $1, and another guy had bet $5, but they only held the table up for about 5 minutes and then let Larry finish his roll.

They did, however, withhold federal tax on it... I can't recall the exact amount.


That is something they DONT do in Canada, right? ("Windsor Casino.. its Relaxing, not Taxing.")
No tax in Canada on gaming winnings ... yippie!!!



BTW, it all happened so fast we didnt even think about hedging the last 2 numbers, but I think its a great idea, why not? And in Tunica, you dont have to pay the vig on don't buy bets until and unless you win, so definately, why not?

A few years ago my Parents, my brother and I went to Vegas to celebrate my brothers 21st. The first thing we do after checking in at Harrah's is go to the crap table. My brother and I were both taught craps from my dad so our playing style is very similar. He plays a decent amount of prop bets (hardways and fire mostly) because he likes the excitement when a parlayed prop bet wins. So we aren't at the table more than 15 minutes when a shooter down the table hits a 6 point fire bet. My dad had $5, me $2 and my brother $1, it was a great way to pad the bankroll at the start of the week, especially for some poor college students like my brother and I. A few days later we also hit a 5 point Fire bet on the same table.

Suffice it to say I will always put a buck or two on the fire from now on.

Yup, its just like those slot machines, if you hit a big one, you always want to keep playin em more and more... They cant lose!!

I always make a $1 FB now, they got me hooked too. What a fun bet!

DJTeddy has patented and is selling a wager kind of like it for use in Roulette... the last 5 spins make up a poker hand and you play that right along with the game, just like with fire bets... How exciting! And if a player hits a big jackpot (like his wager makes possible), is he gonna make that bet again? YUP!



Man, I love hearing stories like that, though.

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Suffice it to say I will always put a buck or two on the fire from now on.

I might now put one up for myself. After I made that run guy to my left shoots, then it moves to the other side of the table (I was 2 from stickman.) I then started betting "dont's." Reason was the way they threw the dice. Now, you can believe in dice influence or not believe in it, your choice. But even if you don't you have to admit at least people who set and grip in the "roesbud" fashion are trying while people who shake and throw are not. Well, the guys on that side were throwing dice like a game of Yahtze (sp?). So I bet the dont't. Won there. Guy walks up and asks if the table is cold and we are playing dont's. Said, "No, just hit a fire bet but not me shooting now." Sure enough, "SEVEN OUT!"

Great story...I won a 4 point $1 fire bet on my recent trip to vegas. Only won $25 but I was the shooter which made it more fun. They should sell Fire Bet Winner T-Shirts or something. Its a great feeling to win that bet.

Actually a Fire Bet Winner T-Shirt would be an excellent idea for a casino. The rule could be that a free t-shirt saying "I Mastered the Fire Bet at _______ Casino" would be given to anyone playing the fire bet for the maximum $5 when it hit all six numbers. It would be great advertising and get a lot more people to try the Fire Bet at craps.

Come to think of it, why don't we see more casinos give away free t-shirts to slot machine jackpot winners? Perhaps to big winners of over $1000 or so. Whenever they have a hand pay, the casino could give away a free t-shirt as well.

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Come to think of it, why don't we see more casinos give away free t-shirts to slot machine jackpot winners? Perhaps to big winners of over $1000 or so. Whenever they have a hand pay, the casino could give away a free t-shirt as well.

The casinos are already giving away comp money, which many people happily use in the gift shop for T-Shirts, etc.

Once you give away Tshirts for a specific purpose, it becomes a logistical nightmare to have the right quantity in the right sizes.

One could think of that as free advertising rather than comps - T-shirts cost next to nothing, ad value of someone wearing it even a few times is considerable. There aren't all that many sizes to handle, either.

I suspect the reason it's not done is rather that it appears a bit too goofy for a casino to handle out T-shirts, though with all these new slots and some entertainment options it's hard to imagine how they could get any goofier.

Quote: gambler

Come to think of it, why don't we see more casinos give away free t-shirts to slot machine jackpot winners? Perhaps to big winners of over $1000 or so. Whenever they have a hand pay, the casino could give away a free t-shirt as well.

The El Cortez frequently gives away jackets. From the Vegas Values Report:

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Throughout February, Club Cortez players winning a jackpot of $200 or more on a slot machine, a $200 or more jackpot on a video poker five-cent or lower denomination machine, a $300 or more jackpot on a video poker ten-cent or high denomination machine or a $200 or more jackpot on live keno will receive an El Cortez fleece jacket