Too stupid to win?
Quote:DETROIT -- A U.S. citizen who won big at the Windsor casino Monday night became a big loser when he tried to bring his winnings back to America.
The U.S. Customs and Border Protection Officers at the Detroit Windsor Tunnel seized $19,901 from two men returning from a trip to the Windsor Casino because they tried to avoid declaring the cash by structuring their return into America so that neither of them carried more than $10,000 across the border, the agency said.
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Quote: JerryLoganThese guys just chose to not declare anything over $10,000 to help one guy out and they had a perfect way to do it, which people do all the time in casinos, at banks, on int'l. airplane flights and at border crossings. He ought to slap that guy silly.
"Help him out" how? The stupidity was in the decision to carry the cash and not to declare it, not in telling the truth to border patrol. If the punishment was death penalty, these guys would have made it for Darwin Reward.
Quote: weaselman"Help him out" how? The stupidity was in the decision to carry the cash and not to declare it, not in telling the truth to border patrol. If the punishment was death penalty, these guys would have made it for Darwin Reward.
You're right, he really wasn't helping him out further than mentally. He should have just declared it. But once they made that stupid decision that could have been only been made out of some paranoia or questionable previous activity of some sort, they would have been fine if the weak idiot didn't spill the beans.
I'm quite sure those guys could have made it through with the cash anyway if they had just stuck to their story. The border guards have nothing to disprove the story. However, it does look fishy to have just under the allowed amount, let alone two people. Furthermore, I think it would have been safe to just carry the full 40K and truthfully declare it. I'm sure the casino would back up the story. Of all the possible things to do, these guys picked the worst option.
Lost fans may recall how Jin had his money confiscated when he didn't declare it at the airport, coming in from Korea.
Quote: WizardFurthermore, I think it would have been safe to just carry the full 40K and truthfully declare it. I'm sure the casino would back up the story. Of all the possible things to do, these guys picked the worst option.
Exactly. Structuring is a federal offense because of the money-laundering implications, not because of tax purposes. I don't think there would have been any tax consequences of taking the 40k across the border (but I'm not actually sure about that). I sat on a federal grand jury once and we heard a structuring case as part of a larger meth investigation. The FBI knows the best way to go after crime is to cut off the money. Witness the UIGEA...
Honestly, I think the best approach is to have the casino cut you a check. No currency, no problems. I wouldn't want to walk around with $40k.
Quote: JerryLoganYes, I get checks sometimes in LV when I win $20k or more, but these guys were in Canada and I don't think they use real money.
Your dollar is now worth the same as theirs. Plus the Canadian dollar has the Queen's head on it, which makes it much more secure.
Quote: JerryLoganOur money buys anything in Canada while their money buys crap here.
Yeah.... right... I'll see if they turn down my money next week in California and Nevada. I'm guessing not...
Quote: thecesspitYeah.... right... I'll see if they turn down my money next week in California and Nevada. I'm guessing not...
And one of the things you can buy with a Canadian dollar is an American dollar, and vice versa. The two currencies are equivalent.
You've got to realize, JerryLogan's primary amusement is insulting people. He also isn't very concerned with telling the truth. He says some of the stupidest things, on this or any other internet forum--but if he can insult as many people as possible, he doesn't care whether he lies/makes himself look like an idiot/makes himself look like a total jerk in the process.
Quote: mkl654321And one of the things you can buy with a Canadian dollar is an American dollar, and vice versa. The two currencies are equivalent.
You've got to realize, JerryLogan's primary amusement is insulting people. He also isn't very concerned with telling the truth. He says some of the stupidest things, on this or any other internet forum--but if he can insult as many people as possible, he doesn't care whether he lies/makes himself look like an idiot/makes himself look like a total jerk in the process.
Facts my man, facts, and those are lacking in every one of your posts, as you have seen brought up by multiple members. And I can usually hear people snickering as they read your endless rambles.
Our drivers regularly go into and out of Canada, and we require they do not bring Canadian cash into the States in anything more than petty cash ($100) because other than near the border, on the road, most truck stops & emergency road service operations & toll booths do not accept Canadian money. The value of one currency to the next has nothing to do with it. Just because you guys go to banks to exchange or do that in casinos, businesses are not required to accept any currency besides American dollars, and most don't.
Quote: rxwineWin a few. Lose a few. And then sometimes you just forfeit it.
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Very Interesting ! If they actually have to forfeiit all the money, it seems like the
penalty is too severe. The won the money legally and could prove that, I assume.
If the winner brought $ 9000 back in 4 separate trips, would that have been ok ?
And if so, it seems like you can be lawful and avoid the rules if you have enough
time on your hands to make multiple trips.
Quote:You've got to realize, JerryLogan's primary amusement is insulting people. He also isn't very concerned with telling the truth. He says some of the stupidest things, on this or any other internet forum--but if he can insult as many people as possible, he doesn't care whether he lies/makes himself look like an idiot/makes himself look like a total jerk in the process.
Is there any chance that Jerry Logan is Mr. Jjj ? He was big on insulting people too, while trying to brag about how he had won more than everyone here. lol
Maybe the two have the same brain.
Quote: KeyserIs there any chance that Jerry Logan is Mr. Jjj ? He was big on insulting people too, while trying to brag about how he had won more than everyone here. lol
Maybe the two have the same brain.
Are you sure YOU are not mkl654321? He's always making unsupportable assertions, and more often than not his rambles turn out not to be anywhere near the truth. In this instance, you have never seen me say "I've won more than anybody here". In fact, I regularly state that I lose 3 out of every 4 trips, and I have admitted multiple times that I've always had losing years.
Brain fart alert.
Quote: JerryLoganFacts my man, facts, and those are lacking in every one of your posts, as you have seen brought up by multiple members. And I can usually hear people snickering as they read your endless rambles.
Our drivers regularly go into and out of Canada, and we require they do not bring Canadian cash into the States in anything more than petty cash ($100) because other than near the border, on the road, most truck stops & emergency road service operations & toll booths do not accept Canadian money. The value of one currency to the next has nothing to do with it. Just because you guys go to banks to exchange or do that in casinos, businesses are not required to accept any currency besides American dollars, and most don't.
Erm, so your point is that American shops only accept American dollars, while the US greenback is much more of a universal currency? If you'd stated that, I'd have had no argument... but you didn't make that clear. I know how universal the US dollar is... I live in a Canadian town that runs on the US tourist dollar (and high end IT). This doesn't make the Canadian dollar worthless.. mind.
Quote: JerryLoganThe Canadian dollar isn't worthless, but it could be worth less if the liberals up there ever decided to honor Mr. far-left and put Obama's picture on one of the bills.
Less chance of that then a invasion by the RCMP to take back the San Juan islands.
Mr. Jjj was here for a while bragging about how he'd bought half of a restaurant with his roulette winnings and was telling everyone how he had won more than every else, so he felt that they were just jealous of him. He was quite a character.
Quote: thecesspitErm, so your point is that American shops only accept American dollars, while the US greenback is much more of a universal currency? If you'd stated that, I'd have had no argument... but you didn't make that clear. I know how universal the US dollar is... I live in a Canadian town that runs on the US tourist dollar (and high end IT). This doesn't make the Canadian dollar worthless.. mind.
Once again, please keep in mind that JerryLogan's primary--probably only--goal isn't to tell the truth or be factual, but rather, to insult as many people as he can. Note that whoever he addresses his posts to, when he disagrees with that person, he can't help himself, but has to throw in personal insults and snide comments. He isn't satisfied with merely disagreeing with anyone--he has to be an abrasive, petty asshole in the process. His assertion that the Canadian dollar is worthless is typical of the drivel he spews. If you can buy one American dollar with one Canadian dollar plus one Canadian penny, the Canadian dollar is hardly worthless!
Jerry's trucking company notwithstanding, many US businesses near the border can and do accept Canadian currency. It's a pain in the butt to go to the bank and exchange it, and you usually get dinged a percentage point or two in the process, but it also means you steal some business from the other guy who won't accept Canadian currency--it's not unlike accepting credit cards.
Quote: KeyserIs there any chance that Jerry Logan is Mr. Jjj ? He was big on insulting people too, while trying to brag about how he had won more than everyone here. lol
Maybe the two have the same brain.
The same KIND of brain, perhaps--but Jerry's gambling delusion is different. Mr. jjj kidded himself that he beat the roulette tables. JerryLogan acknowledges that he's a massive loser--he plays $5 Double Double Bonus, with bad strategy and bad paytables. His losses would have to be in the tens of thousands per year, but he acknowledges that. He does believe in the Prophet Rob Singer, though, whom he believes will lead him into the video poker promised land.
So they are both delusional, but each in his own way. And while Mr. jjj was an unvarnished prick, he pales in comparison to the antisocial, bitter, abrasive, and, worst of all, ignorant JerryLogan (the worst kind of ignorant: the kind that doesn't even realize it).
Quote: KeyserWas Mr. Jjjj finally banned?
As far as I'm aware, the Wiz doesn't ban anyone. I think jjj just slunk away, because so many people had blocked him, it wasn't amusing for him to post his insult-laden diarrhea any more. The same will eventually be true of JerryLogan, because he hasn't posted anything other than insults--nothing of any use, or substance--since that dark day when he joined this board. People eventually get sick of interacting with evil jerks (imagine that!).
Quote: KeyserMaybe I'm wrong Jerry, but you do remind me a little bit of Mr. Jjj.
Mr. Jjj was here for a while bragging about how he'd bought half of a restaurant with his roulette winnings and was telling everyone how he had won more than every else, so he felt that they were just jealous of him. He was quite a character.
I'm probably "quite a character" too if you think exposing mkl's make-it-up-as-he-goes has anything to do with that. But I make no pretense of winning and buying anything. I just work hard and entertain myself and at times my wife, on trips to LV now and then. We were going today but we had to postpone it until Tues. due to work issues.
But everyone here has been jealous of mkl654321 at one time or another due to the absolute WEALTH of knowledge he brings to the table. Actually, it just f-l-o-w-s from his fingertips and at times, you'd think you were reading a combination of deliveries from history's greatest minds....Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, & Johnny Walker.
Quote: JerryLoganyou'd think you were reading a combination of deliveries from history's greatest minds....Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, & Johnny Walker.
I prefer the musings of Ezra Brooks single barrel 12 yr myself.
Quote: JerryLoganI'm probably "quite a character" too if you think exposing mkl's make-it-up-as-he-goes has anything to do with that. But I make no pretense of winning and buying anything. I just work hard and entertain myself and at times my wife, on trips to LV now and then. We were going today but we had to postpone it until Tues. due to work issues.
But everyone here has been jealous of mkl654321 at one time or another due to the absolute WEALTH of knowledge he brings to the table. Actually, it just f-l-o-w-s from his fingertips and at times, you'd think you were reading a combination of deliveries from history's greatest minds....Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, & Johnny Walker.
My knowledge is finite, as is everyone's, but my God, Jerry, you make me look like Einstein by comparison. You're ignorant AND stupid--quite a combination.
And I know so much more than you about hundreds of subjects that all you can do is sneer at my knowledge.
Quote: mkl654321My knowledge is finite, .
Too bad you can't say the same about your ego.
Quote: EvenBobToo bad you can't say the same about your ego.
It's not a matter of ego. I have a 190 IQ. I have two college degrees. I am a member of Mensa. I have read over 5,000 books. I am six feet tall. I live in Oregon. These are facts. I'm not bragging when I say I have a wide range of knowledge. I obtained that knowledge via eight years of college, a lifetime of reading, and a great deal of personal experience in a wide range of fields.
At any rate, JerryLogan makes Homer Simpson look intelligent.
Quote: timberjimDoes anyone else out there think that mkl and jl live in their parents basement?
Does anyone else out there think that that is a really stupid question?
For what it's worth, my father died of complications arising from Parkinson's disease, and my mother from stomach cancer, both eleven years ago, so no, I don't live in their basement.
What about you?
Quote: mkl654321It's not a matter of ego. I have a 190 IQ. I have two college degrees. I am a member of Mensa.
190? Doubtful. I was a member of Mensa in the 80's for a few years. It should be called "Society of Losers". What a bunch of egotistical blowhards. For every successful brainiac, 2 were not. Why it even exists is a mystery. There are two kinds of members, those who think Mensa is worth bragging about, and those that know its a joke. It doesn't surprise me you're in the former.
Quote: mkl654321no, I don't live in their basement.
Why not? You'd fit right in with a lot of Mensa members.
Quote: mkl654321It's not a matter of ego. I have a 190 IQ. I have two college degrees. I am a member of Mensa. I have read over 5,000 books. I am six feet tall. I live in Oregon. These are facts. I'm not bragging when I say I have a wide range of knowledge. I obtained that knowledge via eight years of college, a lifetime of reading, and a great deal of personal experience in a wide range of fields.
At any rate, JerryLogan makes Homer Simpson look intelligent.
Now he's quoting resumes! How about this: I have one Boise State degree in business, in my life I've done more than one could read about in 5001 books, my IQ doesn't matter because I'm very successful, my wife has great legs and she makes more than teachers, I'm six feet four & 230, I wouldn't belong to as homo an organization as Mensa, I don't live where the women don't shave their legs or their underarms, and if you make it up on the go with me you'll get caught and taken out to the woodshed.
I'm not bragging, really I'm not.
Quote: JerryLoganI wouldn't belong to as homo an organization as Mensa, .
The one and only reason Mensa exists is so its members can put people in their place by saying 'I'm a Mensa member'. It has absolutely no other purpose, no matter what they try and tell you.
Quote: EvenBob190? Doubtful. I was a member of Mensa in the 80's for a few years. It should be called "Society of Losers". What a bunch of egotistical blowhards. For every successful brainiac, 2 were not. Why it even exists is a mystery. There are two kinds of members, those who think Mensa is worth bragging about, and those that know its a joke. It doesn't surprise me you're in the former.
Read carefully what you just wrote. You are saying that 1 in 3 members ARE "brainiacs'. So you're contradicting yourself.
No wonder they kicked you out!
Quote: JerryLoganNow he's quoting resumes! How about this: I have one Boise State degree in business, in my life I've done more than one could read about in 5001 books, my IQ doesn't matter because I'm very successful, my wife has great legs and she makes more than teachers, I'm six feet four & 230, I wouldn't belong to as homo an organization as Mensa, I don't live where the women don't shave their legs or their underarms, and if you make it up on the go with me you'll get caught and taken out to the woodshed.
I'm not bragging, really I'm not.
Mensa is "homo"? It's an organization for gay people?
I know you Idahoans are paranoid racist conservative everything-phobic wingnuts, but wow...what a stupid thing to say, even for a potatohead...
And Jerry, I'm absolutely certain you don't have a college degree from ANYWHERE, because your writing isn't college-level. Your ignorance, bigotry, and abrasiveness, I'll chalk up to being deep in the Michael Savage Nation. You are definitely in the 55th percentile in intelligence, so you need not be ashamed of that, but you come across as, frankly, an idiot.
And so what if your wife makes more than a teacher (which I also doubt)? Teaching does more social good than selling Mary Kay cosmetics door-to-door.
Quote: EvenBobThe one and only reason Mensa exists is so its members can put people in their place by saying 'I'm a Mensa member'. It has absolutely no other purpose, no matter what they try and tell you.
Don't be bitter just because they rejected you. There's still the NRA.
Quote: mkl654321Read carefully what you just wrote. You are saying that 1 in 3 members ARE "brainiacs'. So you're contradicting yourself.!
1 in 3 are successful, 2 out of 3 are losers. You know that from being a member, right?
Quote: mkl654321Don't be bitter just because they rejected you. There's still the NRA.
I don't cry myself to sleep anymore, thanks for caring. I'm already a member of the NRA, have been for 30 years. Much more interesting people than Mensa, who's members are so boring its almost difficult to believe. You can only take a room full of people talking about how great they are in very small doses.
Quote: EvenBob1 in 3 are successful, 2 out of 3 are losers. You know that from being a member, right?
Actually, most Mensa members are successful professionals. That's true, even though YOU call them "losers". Especially since YOU couldn't get in, even though you tried and tried. The vocabulary part of the entrance exam kept tripping you up.
Quote: mkl654321Fuck you, Bob.
Was I lying? You know damn well, if you're a member of Mensa, its a giant club o' losers. The really smart people want nothing to do with it and thats a fact.
Quote: EvenBobWas I lying? You know damn well, if you're a member of Mensa, its a giant club o' losers. The really smart people want nothing to do with it and thats a fact.
And what is your evidence for that? Since you don't belong to that organization, and presumably don't go to their meetings, how would you know one way or the other? I know a Mensa member wouldn't be so dumb as to make an assertion about the members of an organization about which he knew nothing.
And how on earth would you know what the "really smart people" think about Mensa? Have you interviewed them? Solicited their opinion? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Quote: mkl654321Mensa is "homo"? It's an organization for gay people?
I know you Idahoans are paranoid racist conservative everything-phobic wingnuts, but wow...what a stupid thing to say, even for a potatohead...
And Jerry, I'm absolutely certain you don't have a college degree from ANYWHERE, because your writing isn't college-level. Your ignorance, bigotry, and abrasiveness, I'll chalk up to being deep in the Michael Savage Nation. You are definitely in the 55th percentile in intelligence, so you need not be ashamed of that, but you come across as, frankly, an idiot.
And so what if your wife makes more than a teacher (which I also doubt)? Teaching does more social good than selling Mary Kay cosmetics door-to-door.
Your assertions just did yourself in again, my friend. Michael Savage has a Phd., he's waaaaaaaay more successful than you, and he only deals in the facts.
Mensa is for homos.
My writing? On a gaming forum?? Come to work for me and learn how well I write my pink slips!
You're a social brute. Really, you are.
Quote: mkl654321Actually, most Mensa members are successful professionals..
Baloney. Mensa is full of wannabe's, people who want to be successful and never quite made it. Thats why I left, I realized the truly successful people want nothing to do with Mensa.
Quote: JerryLoganYour assertions just did yourself in again, my friend. Michael Savage has a Phd., he's waaaaaaaay more successful than you, and he only deals in the facts.
Mensa is for homos.
My writing? On a gaming forum?? Come to work for me and learn how well I write my pink slips!
You're a social brute. Really, you are.
And you're a homophobic, racist, socially inept failure who loses huge sums gambling every year. You don't work for a trucking company, except perhaps as a part-time janitor. Why? Because no one would tolerate working for a bastard like you; furthermore, you don't have the intellect to run a hot dog stand, let alone a trucking company.
I find you utterly repulsive. You are no longer worth talking to.
Quote: mkl654321And what is your evidence for that? Since you don't belong to that organization
Not anymore. But maybe its changed in the last 25 years, maybe its not just ego centered nerds who spend 98% of their waking hours trying to impress everybody with how smart they are. Yeah, I'm sure its totally different now. LOL.
Quote: EvenBobNot anymore. But maybe its changed in the last 25 years, maybe its not just ego centered nerds who spend 98% of their waking hours trying to impress everybody with how smart they are. Yeah, I'm sure its totally different now. LOL.
Fuck you, Bob.
