My court case 1: victory
No possibility of appeal so its completely over.
I wish I could talk much about it but its almost certainly going to lead to court case #3
In general terms a casino made accusations that were not true and also made some assumptions of law (which since I researched it I knew they were wrong)
As a result they held me falsely for over an hour and maliciously prosecuted (again the charges were not true)
Charges have not only been dismissed but are being completely expunged
Thats about all I can discuss here. Full details in a few years after my resultant lawsuit
In a just legal system the punitive damages would be enough to ensure casinos don’t do things like what happened to you.
We might get super lucky if he can sue and there is a NDA.Quote: MaxPenWhat a great idea. Start a thread about something you can't talk about. 😀
Quote: AxelWolfWe might get super lucky if he can sue and there is a NDA.
Ya because people being imprisoned against their will be thugs that pretend they are police officers is really funny so let’s all get in a good laugh about it instead of rallying to support justice.
Quote: randompersonYa because people being imprisoned against their will be thugs that pretend they are police officers is really funny so let’s all get in a good laugh about it instead of rallying to support justice.
If there's a settlement there will be a NDA. It's a waste of time to talk about anything specific in a forum environment. It just leads to speculation and alot of false information and assumptions.
Quote: MaxPenIf there's a settlement there will be a NDA. It's a waste of time to talk about anything specific in a forum environment. It just leads to speculation and alot of false information and assumptions.
I wlll be pleasantly surprised if there is a settlement
My experience so far is the casinos hate what I do so much they cant stomach agreeing to a settlement
I am certain it will go all the way to a trial.
Max: did I upset your stomach with curiosity about a thread you cant get the full details on?
EDIT: my personal revenge for always being criticized for talking too much - a thread I wont talk much at all about:)
Quote: JohnzimboYou must have been represented by ZenKing, the world's foremost attorney ....right???
Lol no
Is ZK an attorney? I thought he was a fulltime AP.
Quote: darkozLol no
Is ZK an attorney? I thought he was a fulltime AP.
he can not become an attorney because he is smarter than the professors and he couldn't be bothered to have to show up on schedule like the rest of us droned fools.
seriously though.. were there actual charges that were originally put against you with serious jail time?
Quote: GWAEhe can not become an attorney because he is smarter than the professors and he couldn't be bothered to have to show up on schedule like the rest of us droned fools.
seriously though.. were there actual charges that were originally put against you with serious jail time?
Yes to actual charges
Yes I was facing jail time theoretically however as a man my age with not one prior charge in his entire life it probably would have been less severe a sentence than prison
Nonetheless I had to make multiple court appearances, hire a defense attorney and do prep for trial
Again all charges dropped for lack of evidence (duh I was innocent) and the entire arrest is being expunged
There is nothing wrong with getting a settlement.Quote: randompersonYa because people being imprisoned against their will be thugs that pretend they are police officers is really funny so let’s all get in a good laugh about it instead of rallying to support justice.
You have not idea about my support and rallying for justice when it comes to this sort of stuff. I'm sure Bob N. would tell you quite the opposite on my behalf. And why I was involved in casinos being less likely to do all those things.
Quote: darkozI wlll be pleasantly surprised if there is a settlement
My experience so far is the casinos hate what I do so much they cant stomach agreeing to a settlement
I am certain it will go all the way to a trial.
Max: did I upset your stomach with curiosity about a thread you cant get the full details on?
EDIT: my personal revenge for always being criticized for talking too much - a thread I wont talk much at all about:)
No curiosity on my part as I already know the answers. Not sure why you feel revenge is something you need. In the past I gave you credit for knowing stuff that it has become clear you have no clue, so prattle on, you will only hurt yourself and the others who do what you do.
Quote: MaxPenNo curiosity on my part as I already know the answers. Not sure why you feel revenge is something you need. In the past I gave you credit for knowing stuff that it has become clear you have no clue, so prattle on, you will only hurt yourself and the others who do what you do.
Lol
Unlike others on this forum I am the first to admit there are probably and most likely AP plays I dont know anything about.
I only claim expertise in my one niche. There may even be offshoots of that niche I am unaware of. (Even scientists who devote their whole lives to a subject admit they are wrong sometimes)
"Revenge" in a lighthearted way *:)
Quote: darkozYes to actual charges
Yes I was facing jail time theoretically however as a man my age with not one prior charge in his entire life it probably would have been less severe a sentence than prison
Nonetheless I had to make multiple court appearances, hire a defense attorney and do prep for trial
Again all charges dropped for lack of evidence (duh I was innocent) and the entire arrest is being expunged
Bow hopefully you get made whole in the end but one thing that sucks is how much did you have to spend to fight this?
Quote: GWAEBow hopefully you get made whole in the end but one thing that sucks is how much did you have to spend to fight this?
Thousands
Would have been more but didnt go to trial.
Also discovery documents were pampered to us by the casino (which thought they had the upper hand as plaintiffs)
If I were suing them court filings for those same discovery documents would have raised the costs
Starting a lawsuit with pages upon pages of testimony and discovery already (happily) handed over almost makes it worthwhile.
Quote: MaxPenWhat a great idea. Start a thread about something you can't talk about. 😀
Gets him the attention he so desperately was looking for....
Quote: SM777Gets him the attention he so desperately was looking for....
You make that sound like a bad thing.
Quote: AxelWolfThere is nothing wrong with getting a settlement.
You have not idea about my support and rallying for justice when it comes to this sort of stuff. I'm sure Bob N. would tell you quite the opposite on my behalf. And why I was involved in casinos being less likely to do all those things.
That’s great thank you. There are appropriate times to put down the jokes and support our community and this is one of them.
And Hooray for another victory against injustice, against malfeasance and wrong-doing, against arrogant know-nothing thuggery and bullying.
Quote: darkozI wlll be pleasantly surprised if there is a settlement
My experience so far is the casinos hate what I do so much they cant stomach agreeing to a settlement
I am certain it will go all the way to a trial.
Max: did I upset your stomach with curiosity about a thread you cant get the full details on?
EDIT: my personal revenge for always being criticized for talking too much - a thread I wont talk much at all about:)
Don't they always settle if they think there's a chance they could lose the trial? Settle, admit no fault, get an NDA, backroom the next person, repeat. As soon as there's a record of a loss at trial, it becomes more clear that their actions are not permissible...
Quote: darkozCourt case number one is now past me
No possibility of appeal so its completely over.
I wish I could talk much about it but its almost certainly going to lead to court case #3
In general terms a casino made accusations that were not true and also made some assumptions of law (which since I researched it I knew they were wrong)
As a result they held me falsely for over an hour and maliciously prosecuted (again the charges were not true)
Charges have not only been dismissed but are being completely expunged
Thats about all I can discuss here. Full details in a few years after my resultant lawsuit
Apparently you can't talk about court case #2 either.
Quote: AxelWolfWe might get super lucky if he can sue and there is a NDA.
Then he won't be able to put it in
the book he pays somebody to
write that nobody will buy.
Quote: standbymymanApparently you can't talk about court case #2 either.
Correct. That one is ongoing as well
They do 86 the homeless.
Maybe Darkov was arrested for violating a trespass warning.
And now he's suing.
https://nypost.com/2010/05/30/the-sweet-stench-of-uccess/
Quote: MDawgDuring a recent trip I saw a homeless smelly bum weaving through one of the Vegas casinos. Security starting converging on him, and in his haste to escape he almost tripped over me. I let it go, didn't let it phase me, just resented the brief intrusion of smelly air.
They do 86 the homeless.
Maybe Darkov was arrested for violating a trespass warning.
And now he's suing.
https://nypost.com/2010/05/30/the-sweet-stench-of-uccess/
Lol, whats your problem?
Your day job so lousy you cant afford to pay for dinner?
I can afford to pay for entire spring fling dinners
I miss card counting. I've been doing AC work everyday.
If I could leave the restaurant business. I'd probably be building an off grid system and growing vegetables.
Quote: jjjooogggCongrats, sounds like they didn't have a case against you.
I miss card counting. I've been doing AC work everyday.
If I could leave the restaurant business. I'd probably be building an off grid system and growing vegetables.
Just to clarify, you left card counting to do work in AC (Atlantic City) or you mean AC(air conditioning)?
Quote: JohnzimboYou must have been represented by ZenKing, the world's foremost attorney ....right???
Gotta ask, who or what is a Zenking?
Quote: LovecompsGotta ask, who or what is a Zenking?
A member or former member who posts rants every time he loses big at card counting about how the casinos are cheating.
He usually rants with on invectives and foul language that gets him both suspended and ridiculed
But in person he is like totally quiet and serene.
He attended the last 2 springflings so everyone here recognizes his online vs offline personas
I took a look at that list and it seems like a few other names pop up a lot. I'd say that one should stay away from religion and politics too but there are topics upon topics about Predsident Trump.
For what it's worth, I can count but I'm not particularly good at it so I just stick to basic strategy and dice.
Just ask him.
Quote: darkozYour day job so lousy you cant afford to pay for dinner?
I can afford to pay for entire spring fling dinners
Know what people with real money
do? They never, ever, talk like that.
People who do talk like that are
the ones who want everyone to
think they have real money,
because they don't.
Quote: EvenBobKnow what people with real money
do? They never, ever, talk like that.
People who do talk like that are
the ones who want everyone to
think they have real money,
because they don't.
Kind of like Donald J Trump, right?
p.s. Whatever you get, ZK woulda got you more... ;-)
Quote: RomesNot sure why everyone is hating on your Darkoz! Congrats on the first of hopefully many victories against the typical uninformed and illegal casino actions. I'm HOPING one day you can talk about these and we can get all the juicy popcorn eating details about you making the casinos suffer for their injustices.
p.s. Whatever you get, ZK woulda got you more... ;-)
Thank you so much.
It is appreciated when I dont have to defend myself from attacks for a change
Quote: darkozQuote: RomesNot sure why everyone is hating on your Darkoz! Congrats on the first of hopefully many victories against the typical uninformed and illegal casino actions. I'm HOPING one day you can talk about these and we can get all the juicy popcorn eating details about you making the casinos suffer for their injustices.
p.s. Whatever you get, ZK woulda got you more... ;-)
Thank you so much.
It is appreciated when I dont have to defend myself from attacks for a change
We all make the choice to take s##t here when we decide to post.
Some just make it easier than others by purposely putting stuff out there that they know is going to bring the attacks.
And many would argue they welcome and expect it.
Quote: BozQuote: darkozQuote: RomesNot sure why everyone is hating on your Darkoz! Congrats on the first of hopefully many victories against the typical uninformed and illegal casino actions. I'm HOPING one day you can talk about these and we can get all the juicy popcorn eating details about you making the casinos suffer for their injustices.
p.s. Whatever you get, ZK woulda got you more... ;-)
Thank you so much.
It is appreciated when I dont have to defend myself from attacks for a change
We all make the choice to take s##t here when we decide to post.
Some just make it easier than others by purposely putting stuff out there that they know is going to bring the attacks.
And many would argue they welcome and expect it.
I should not be hampered in what i boast about
The only personal rule for me is I boast of real things that happened or I accomplished
And along with that I also give those instances where my life crumbles. No one here can claim I only boast of the good times. I have been very forthright with both the good and bad things that have befallen me.
Surprisingly to me I seem to take more flack for the honesty of when my life has been in the doldrums than when I boast of my success.
WOVers are a strange crew
Darkov was homeless. Today, he boasts about having a few benjies in his pocket.
Quote: darkozI have the best credit in the world.
Its called The Benjamins.
Accepted most anywhere and without ID.
Quote: darkozLol
You keep measuring success that way.
I will stick to counting my benjamins
From his perspective, he is rich. He came up from nothing, to now having something. Even before he had nothing, he mentions topping out at a salary of $49K, which again, is about nothing.
However, EvenBob is absolutely right when he says
Quote: EvenBobKnow what people with real money
do? They never, ever, talk like that.
People who do talk like that are
the ones who want everyone to
think they have real money,
because they don't.
Boasting or even talking about what you have asset wise is both a sign of insecurity, and a sign that the person doesn't really have as much as he claims, or at best, has only what he is boasting about and no more. So when he says
Quote: darkozI can afford to pay for entire spring fling dinners
that might be about all he could afford, straining his entire net worth, to pay for some dinners.
Someone mentioned Donald Grump - his boasting about what he has definitely comes from insecurity (boy from the Bronx (Queens) trying to play with the blue bloods) and also his "Art of the Deal" if we may call it that, is to borrow and develop based on exaggerated income and assets, based on bluster.
But really, the only ones Grump is fooling are the have-nots. The only ones who really believe everything Grump says about his net worth are people who would be impressed with a shiny new pickup in the driveway, or a new flat screen TV, or house that is valued at over $500K.
To Darkov's credit, he does laugh at some of the posts that poke fun at him. For example he added a lol after my post where I opined that he might just be getting 86'ed due to being smelly homeless and then suing based on that exclusion by status versus exclusion for misdeeds. The ability to laugh at yourself and not get hysterical when challenged (the way for example SigfriedRoy gets bent out of shape when questioned or contradicted, showing great insecurity) shows some kind of groundedness.
There are inconsistencies in his posts however. Just for example: This robbery he talks about (he means burglary of course, there was no robbery), he claims the alleged perps are still in jail since January without any charges being filed. That just wouldn't happen. Also mentions the FBI investigating. Yes there were player cards allegedly taken but still, nothing he describes would motivate the FBI to get involved in a residential burglary. Unless they were investigating Darkov himself for identity fraud, for having all those player cards if they were say, in fictitious names, or he was assuming others' identities. But I don't really see that happening either, so his claim that the FBI is investigating a res. burg., also makes no sense.
Quote: MDawgAs Holden Caulfield would say, "Strange, my a**"
Darkov was homeless. Today, he boasts about having a few benjies in his pocket.
From his perspective, he is rich. He came up from nothing, to now having something. Even before he had nothing, he mentions topping out at a salary of $49K, which again, is about nothing.
However, EvenBob is absolutely right when he says
Boasting or even talking about what you have asset wise is both a sign of insecurity, and a sign that the person doesn't really have as much as he claims, or at best, has only what he is boasting about and no more. So when he says
that might be about all he could afford, straining his entire net worth, to pay for some dinners.
Someone mentioned Donald Grump - his boasting about what he has definitely comes from insecurity (boy from the Bronx (Queens) trying to play with the blue bloods) and also his "Art of the Deal" if we may call it that, is to borrow and develop based on exaggerated income and assets, based on bluster.
But really, the only ones Grump is fooling are the have-nots. The only ones who really believe everything Grump says about his net worth are people who would be impressed with a shiny new pickup in the driveway, or a new flat screen TV, or house that is valued at over $500K.
To Darkov's credit, he does laugh at some of the posts that poke fun at him. For example he added a lol after my post where I opined that he might just be getting 86'ed due to being smelly homeless and then suing based on that exclusion by status versus exclusion for misdeeds. The ability to laugh at yourself and not get hysterical when challenged (the way for example SigfriedRoy gets bent out of shape when questioned or contradicted, showing great insecurity) shows some kind of groundedness.
There are inconsistencies in his posts however. Just for example: This robbery he talks about (he means burglary of course, there was no robbery), he claims the alleged perps are still in jail since January without any charges being filed. That just wouldn't happen. Also mentions the FBI investigating. Yes there were player cards allegedly taken but still, nothing he describes would motivate the FBI to get involved in a residential burglary. Unless they were investigating Darkov himself for identity fraud, for having all those player cards if they were say, in fictitious names, or he was assuming others' identities. But I don't really see that happening either, so his claim that the FBI is investigating a res. burg., also makes no sense.
You make a number of assumptions. Perhaps the reason the charges have not been filed is that the perp is in jail on unrelated charges. Year ago, someone stole a packet of those checks banks send out for cash advances and cashed out several thousand dollars. This was in the mid to late 90s when id theft was almost unheard of. To his great surprise, two FBI agents showed up at his office and then followed through a few weeks later. While I doubt they follow up every case these days, they may still be in charge.
Quote: MDawgAs Holden Caulfield would say, "Strange, my a**"
Darkov was homeless. Today, he boasts about having a few benjies in his pocket.
From his perspective, he is rich. He came up from nothing, to now having something. Even before he had nothing, he mentions topping out at a salary of $49K, which again, is about nothing.
However, EvenBob is absolutely right when he says
Boasting or even talking about what you have asset wise is both a sign of insecurity, and a sign that the person doesn't really have as much as he claims, or at best, has only what he is boasting about and no more. So when he says
that might be about all he could afford, straining his entire net worth, to pay for some dinners.
Someone mentioned Donald Grump - his boasting about what he has definitely comes from insecurity (boy from the Bronx (Queens) trying to play with the blue bloods) and also his "Art of the Deal" if we may call it that, is to borrow and develop based on exaggerated income and assets, based on bluster.
But really, the only ones Grump is fooling are the have-nots. The only ones who really believe everything Grump says about his net worth are people who would be impressed with a shiny new pickup in the driveway, or a new flat screen TV, or house that is valued at over $500K.
To Darkov's credit, he does laugh at some of the posts that poke fun at him. For example he added a lol after my post where I opined that he might just be getting 86'ed due to being smelly homeless and then suing based on that exclusion by status versus exclusion for misdeeds. The ability to laugh at yourself and not get hysterical when challenged (the way for example SigfriedRoy gets bent out of shape when questioned or contradicted, showing great insecurity) shows some kind of groundedness.
There are inconsistencies in his posts however. Just for example: This robbery he talks about (he means burglary of course, there was no robbery), he claims the alleged perps are still in jail since January without any charges being filed. That just wouldn't happen. Also mentions the FBI investigating. Yes there were player cards allegedly taken but still, nothing he describes would motivate the FBI to get involved in a residential burglary. Unless they were investigating Darkov himself for identity fraud, for having all those player cards if they were say, in fictitious names, or he was assuming others' identities. But I don't really see that happening either, so his claim that the FBI is investigating a res. burg., also makes no sense.
Funny you correct me on burglary va robbery. The FBI agent did the same thing. So yes, I was a burglary victim. The FBI agent was a bit more circumspect about pointing out it is a common mistake for those not involved in law enforcement
The reasons the story isnt making sense is because I havent told it yet. Things are still in flux and i am waiting for when i feel comfortable telling it. The points you make about jail time and FBI involvement are correct. You just have surmised what is happening as wrong.
Finally when you state I bragged about topping out at $49,000 that was per month! Leaving that out is a bit deceptive?
Am I rich? That is just perspective.
A multi-millionaire is poor to Trumps thinking but rich to many others. Bill Gates probably laughs at Trump being only 10 billion.
I am doing extremely well for my current profession as an AP. Utilizing AP, I succeed, am self-sufficient and have a large crew of workers who also are self-sufficient (they make their entire income off work from me and are making way more than minimum wage).
One worker once called me Robin Hood and I respectfully declined that appellation. I pointed out I dont take from the rich and give to the poor. I give to me.
He response: "Dude, you're feeding a whole [f-bomb] community. There are a whole bunch of people eating because of you."
So, yeah I do well. Rich? Thats just a subjective standard. I am quite happy where I am at. I enjoy what I do. Considering I succeed in a career (AP) that most dream about and most fail at thats rich enough for me.
Quote: darkozThe only personal rule for me is I boast of real things that happened or I accomplished
That's what all boasters say, and they
say it all the time. "I wouldn't lie", they
say, "This really happened."
Whatever you say, sport..
Quote: EvenBobThat's what all boasters say, and they
say it all the time. "I wouldn't lie", they
say, "This really happened."
Whatever you say, sport..
EB, mdawg, etc. This is turning into trolling of darkoz. Back it down a notch, please. There's a difference between discussion and baiting someone.
I think you may have meant "appellation". An assignation is something you don't decline, particularly if she is bright, beautiful and rich.Quote: darkozOne worker once called me Robin Hood and I respectfully declined that assignation.
Quote: FleaStiffI think you may have meant "appellation". An assignation is something you don't decline, particularly if she is bright, beautiful and rich.
Yes I stand corrected.
My brain was telling me it was the wrong word too but I was typing in bed from a long nap. My brain refused to let my fingers search google for the right word lol
Just corrected it in the op
Quote: darkozYes I stand corrected.
My brain was telling me it was the wrong word too but I was typing in bed from a long nap. My brain refused to let my fingers search google for the right word lol
Just corrected it in the op
Even Stephen King made mistakes while looking right.
