Vegasrider
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October 9th, 2018 at 8:11:45 PM permalink
Hit a Royal at the end of September and I hit one again last night. $10 paid $5k.

https://imgur.com/GikMYxL
Sandybestdog
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October 10th, 2018 at 1:51:58 AM permalink
Nice! 2 years ago I was playing and the guy next to me hit one with just the 10. He was betting $5. I thought to myself if I could just get one royal it would solve a lot of my problems. An hour later I got ace/8. I bet 4x and forgot about it. I think the flop was king and 10 of spades. The river filled in the queen and jack. I had a very anxious 2 minutes not remembering which ace I had. Finally the dealer flipped over my hand and there was the ace of spades. They wouldn't let me take a picture. The place is a sweat lodge. They kicked me out a few weeks later. The real crime though was the dealer didn't qualify.
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October 10th, 2018 at 7:22:32 AM permalink
Quote: Sandybestdog

Nice! 2 years ago I was playing and the guy next to me hit one with just the 10. He was betting $5. I thought to myself if I could just get one royal it would solve a lot of my problems. An hour later I got ace/8. I bet 4x and forgot about it. I think the flop was king and 10 of spades. The river filled in the queen and jack. I had a very anxious 2 minutes not remembering which ace I had. Finally the dealer flipped over my hand and there was the ace of spades. They wouldn't let me take a picture. The place is a sweat lodge. They kicked me out a few weeks later. The real crime though was the dealer didn't qualify.



Not following the last part. So what if the dealer didn't qualify? You got your ante pushed back. $5, $10 more? When you won $2500 or more on just the blind?
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October 10th, 2018 at 9:20:54 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Not following the last part. So what if the dealer didn't qualify? You got your ante pushed back. $5, $10 more? When you won $2500 or more on just the blind?



Guessing it's so sweaty they don't pay the blind if the dealer doesn't play, since then you didn't "beat the dealer".
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October 10th, 2018 at 3:11:07 PM permalink
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Guessing it's so sweaty they don't pay the blind if the dealer doesn't play, since then you didn't "beat the dealer".



0% chance a casino does this. They would get sued into Never Never Land by both the customer, and Scientific Gaming* for breach of contact, if they even tried it.

* Is that what they're calling themselves these days?
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October 10th, 2018 at 4:00:00 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

0% chance a casino does this. They would get sued into Never Never Land by both the customer, and Scientific Gaming* for breach of contact, if they even tried it.

* Is that what they're calling themselves these days?


Casinos don't get sued into "never never land". Sugarhouse just got caught having a bunch of messed up games (missing cards in many instances, unshuffled cards in other(s)), and they got fined $100k.

Chances are, something like the following would happen:

Player hits RF, dealer doesn't pay or is unsure to pay -- calls over floor person regardless. Floor person makes an incorrect ruling, says player doesn't get paid. Player contacts gaming commission and a field agent comes to the casino. Agent, if competent, tells dealer and floor person to pay. If incompetent (decent chance, tbh), agent says some dumb s*** about "casino is a private business they have their own rules they can do as they want" and leaves. I've actually had a gaming agent tell me this before (on the phone).

The most likely "worst case" scenario for the casino is the agent being incompetent, casino doesn't pay, then customer goes ahead and presses charges (or whatever the legalese word is), casino goes to court, and they'll be ordered to pay customer his $5,000 or whatever it is, and maybe gets a $100k fine.

It would get brushed off as "We expect our table games personnel to be professional and know the rules and payouts of the games. It's come to our attention not all personnel know all the fine details of every game, for which we apologize. We will better train our dealers and supervisors. This was just a simple error where no ill-will was intended." Plus, if the field agent gets it wrong and tells casino not to pay, well........yeah.


I guess absolute worst case may be if agent tells casino to pay and casino decides not to pay regardless. But that's a whole 'nother can of worms.


EDIT/NOTE: I'm talking about more of the reality of the situation, not how it should happen.
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October 10th, 2018 at 5:42:26 PM permalink
At least the UTH game here, we get paid off on the blind bets regardless whether the dealer qualified or not, but you must beat the dealer to get paid off on the blind bet. You just won't get paid on the ante.
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October 10th, 2018 at 8:05:03 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

At least the UTH game here, we get paid off on the blind bets regardless whether the dealer qualified or not, but you must beat the dealer to get paid off on the blind bet. You just won't get paid on the ante.



That's how it's supposed to work, and I've played about 30 casinos without ever seeing them try to not pay.

It's a rule from Caribbean Stud, which is why I stopped playing that game 20 years ago. But never done that way on UTH. Sci Gaming would be a very good resource if Gaming was incompetent- Roger Snow makes the casinos play the game correctly.
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Sandybestdog
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October 10th, 2018 at 10:19:44 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Not following the last part. So what if the dealer didn't qualify? You got your ante pushed back. $5, $10 more? When you won $2500 or more on just the blind?

Sorry, I see how that could be confusing. I was betting $15 so I got $7500 on the blind, $45 on the play bet (it was actually the Heads Up Holdíem version) and the ante pushed because the dealer didnít have at least a pair.
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October 10th, 2018 at 10:47:13 PM permalink
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Guessing it's so sweaty they don't pay the blind if the dealer doesn't play, since then you didn't "beat the dealer".

No itís sweaty because this particular place doesnít like winners or generally any kind of action, even if you are possibly a loser like I was. A few weeks later a security guard came up to me and said they donít want me playing there. I was betting $10 on blackjack. A few weeks later my card was canceled and I was flyered all over. I go back there every now and then but donít play too much.

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